Originally posted by XLR87T3
Anyways, 99% of the kryptonians get oneshotted by telepathy. Then the rest take out 99% of Asgardians, so we're left with Superman, Powergirl, Supergirl, and Zod, against Loki, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Thorgirl/Jane, War Thor, Destroyer, and Odin.Asgard wins in the end
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Ok, 99.99%. And if we are going by eras, then it'll be Thor, Loki, BRB, Amora the Enchantress, Cul Borson, Destroyer, and Odin for our regular 616 Asgard before Aaron and Jane Thor came about. My original point still stands.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont know what JL King is talking about. I havent even participated in this thread except with a couple of posts and what I said was solid. Darksaint, you're amazing with math and good post. I have no rebuttals about the moon ft.You still didnt dispute my argument with Jane Thor vs random Kryptonians though. What fts do they have?
I didn't dispute it because it leads to weird conclusions.
I actually lowballed a bit. You said 3/4 random Kryps could equal Jane....I said nahh, let's say 5 Kryps equal her (so lowballed the Kryps).
100,000 /5=20,000 Jane Thor levels beings.
20,000.
Chuck whoever you want into Asgard. BRB, Valkyrie, Hela, Throg, Balder back from the dear, whatever. You'll still be hard pressed to get 20 top Asgardians, with the rest being farmers and what not.
You think those 20 Asgardians could fight off 20,000Asgardian beings? A thousand Kryps each? Nah.
Five or six randoms did what Superman took entire books to do. What Darkseid failed to do. What the entire GLC failed to do. What the JLA failed to do. What Imperiex managed (and thus, he had eveolvrd past).
In a few panels. If you guys seriously can't see what an insane feat that is....
And now you have 100,000 of them. Sure, they might equal 20,000 Jane's, but one Jane is....well, we know what she can do.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Doomsday was killed by 5 noname Kryptonians?I thought it was like 20.
Jesus what a pussy.
👆 it makes sense though.
If you and I- being human level on speed strength etc - fought evenly for hours, how would you fare against a group ? Pretty poorly I'd wager. A group of Tysons would swarm a single Holyfield.
It just means that the random Kryps are pretty hard-core.
Yeah but they have so few feats. You've made the thread, so I'm assuming you have some idea of where they sit power wise.
And that idea would be based on their showings...and they have incredibly few. Cutting the DD feat out would negate like 50% of their combat feats, lol. Because you don't like it.
I just see it as consistent (apart from the blood, lol).
If DD is equal to Superman (maybe sliiiightly higher-ups they did fight evenly for a long time AND had a mutual KO) then being mobbed by a group of his peers (not equal to him of course, but below him, in the same general area in terms of stats) isn't a low showing for DD.
Like having one big guy mobbed by a group of smaller guys. Sure, 1on1 he'd take em out. 2on1, still the big guy. 5on1? 6on1? Big guy loses, especially if the group are trained and work together.
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Ok, 99.99%. And if we are going by eras, then it'll be Thor, Loki, BRB, Amora the Enchantress, Cul Borson, Destroyer, and Odin for our regular 616 Asgard before Aaron and Jane Thor came about. My original point still stands.
That's...six people (someone has to animate the Destroyer). And I see you're twisting the numbers to suit yourself, lol. Not a big fan of that. Why not argue 90%? Oh that's right, because it would mess your point up lol.
I think MY original point is what still stands. The sheer number of Kryps here means you have to be pretty creative and biased with your numbers for Asgard to have a chance. Your point is only valid if 99.99% of all Kryps get taken out at the bell, lol. Any less, and Asgard gets swarmed.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
why do you keep talking about ANIMATING the destroyer? the destroyer in this post I specified is at the level he is now i.e it's already animated
I thought it was a random encounter? Asgard don't just keep it lying around ready to go 24/7....
So now Asgard has prep and is ready for a fight? What else have I missed lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who's animating him? As in, who's inside? Random Asgardians or Freyja or Odin etc?At peak suggests Odin, but just wanted to clarify.....
Edit: I honestly missed that the Destroyer was already animated. Wasn't in the Original Post....
the destroyer that fought jane thor
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the destroyer that fought jane thor
Had you named someone powerful animating it, that would've been a different matter.
As it is, once the Asgardian who is powering the Destroyer dies (and remember, a random Asgardian is pretty much nothing compared to a random Kryp) the Destroyer.....is kinda useless lol.
Unless you devote some of your Asgardian heroes (Thor or whatever) to guard the Asgardian. Which takes them off the battlefield.
Either way, the Destroyer is a nonfactor thanks to your choice of host.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 it makes sense though.If you and I- being human level on speed strength etc - fought evenly for hours, how would you fare against a group ? Pretty poorly I'd wager. A group of Tysons would swarm a single Holyfield.
It just means that the random Kryps are pretty hard-core.
No, it's just nonsense.
Superman is at very least the Captain America of Krypton.
He would go through a hundred Kryptonians and so should Doomsday.