New Krypton vs Asgard

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman is related to Rao, the most powerful god of Krypton.

So powerful, he's a peer to Despair, of the Endless.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wasn't this retconned ?

Not after the merge, it wasn't.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay? If it is not psychically shielded, it makes no difference. Telepathy, like cancer or space aids, works ACROSS species.

Not in this case. You can't use Odin wiping humans against kryptonians.

Asgadian minds are different than humans too, they are psionic beings even under some writers.

Your point being?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Loki's telepathy drove Reed Richards insane

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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
just got done reading the comic.

1. Nightwing and Flamebird are anything but fodder, They're possessed by Kryptonian Gods, even, and those are the only two kryptonians I see there.

With the gods in them, they should be stronger than Superman. so nice try

They were never shown to be stronger than Superman. They only got a few minor abilities. Also Jax Ur was there too.

2. they weren't 'in' the black hole for most of it, but they were close enough that the gravitational effects were major and Alan was the only reason the squishier heroes were alive.

There you go with the lowballing. They were inside the black hole where even time stood still.

Abhi, you aren't pretending Nightwing and Flamebird weren't amped above their standard levels are you..?

They didn't look any stronger than normal kryptonians.

...they actually were

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
...they actually were

they were literally AMPED above their normal levels.

How does that equate to a normal kryptonians? they were possseded by ridicilously powerful kryptonian gods

and no, their weren't "dead galaxies" , real galaxies were destroyed as a side effect from odin. you have no proof

the New Krypton story those two start out as normal kryptonians using the IDs then the gods merge with them over time, and you can see their flame and shadow powers.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
they were literally AMPED above their normal levels.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
How does that equate to a normal kryptonians? they were possseded by ridicilously powerful kryptonian gods

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and no, their weren't "dead galaxies" , real galaxies were destroyed as a side effect from odin. you have no proof

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the New Krypton story those two start out as normal kryptonians using the IDs then the gods merge with them over time, and you can see their flame and shadow powers.

Odin has never destroyed galaxies.

Has he caused damaged to a galaxy in a single attack?

No

Originally posted by abhilegend
No

Explain this to me then.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Non canon.

Why is First Thunder non-cannon?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not in this case. You can't use Odin wiping humans against kryptonians.

Your point being?

Explain your reasoning.

Any telepath who can affect humans or is from Earth, 99.9999% of the time can affect alien species just fine unless they are abnormally psychically shielded.

I think you asked for this scan btw:

Odin with a gesture stops time, bfrs the entire human race, and keeps them mentally blank.

Originally posted by carver9

Explain this to me then.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why is First Thunder non-cannon?

It's events were erased.

Explain your reasoning.

Any telepath who can affect humans or is from Earth, 99.9999% of the time can affect alien species just fine unless they are abnormally psychically shielded.

J'onn could scan entire Earth but couldn't scan one kryptonian mind because it's different.

Maybe marvel aliens just suck.