New Krypton vs Asgard

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Odin can make massive Dimensional Teleport so I don't see the utility of the PZ projectors.

You’re joking right? Doesn’t matter if you can teleport, once you’re hit with the PZ, your trapped, powerless and being hunted down by the beasts in the PZ.

>acting like asgard doesn't have insane artifacts

abhi, your scaling is missing context once again. Beta Ray Bill religiously spams fires attacks from muspelheim

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
>acting like asgard doesn't have insane artifacts

Not claiming that. Not at all. But for arguments sake, what do they have that can beat the Miracle Machine?

the what?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the what?

Originally posted by SquallX
You’re joking right? Doesn’t matter if you can teleport, once you’re hit with the PZ, your trapped, powerless and being hunted down by the beasts in the PZ.

The Phantom Zone is another dimension. I don't see the problem.

at its best Asgard...Current, Krypton.

...Why are you harping on the Miracle Machine being in a thread of New Krypton and Asgard for pages? Smh. Might as well bring up the IG for Asgard, it's about as relevant. Asgard has far more relevant reality warping weapons in its vault and even those haven't been mentioned.

If that's your line in the sand, you've answered the question of the thread yourself @Squallx.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
...Why are you harping on the Miracle Machine being in a thread of New Krypton and Asgard for pages? Smh. Might as well bring up the IG for Asgard, it's about as relevant. Asgard has far more relevant reality warping weapons in its vault and even those haven't been mentioned.

If that's your line in the sand, you've answered the question of the thread yourself @Squallx.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, sounds good! The weekend of August 3rd.

Here is my stance, [b]firmly and clearly stated: Odin has demonstrated directly and indirectly sufficient power to be considered galactic level.

Good.

What is your stance? I want this to be clear so there is no back-tracking. Because this post just said most writers while acknowledging he has one -arguable- Galactic level feat (You previously said it was a few isolated showings), and I don't want this to be some word-play bullshit. Your foundation is shaky, and seems to change from post to post.

Majority of the writers don't view him as a galactic level being. I will start from the writers who have written at least 50 Thor comics and come down from that.

I don't want to write up an awesome sauce breakdown only for you to be like "Well I NEVER said Odin was NEVER Galactic level." etc. [/B]

He has one high showing and is riding on its coattails for quite some time.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Proof destroyer is weaker than uru now? And Loki doesn’t need a physical being and has regrow his limbs

Good luck with that when kryptoninans punch you in the face.

Magic is still the plague of the Kryptonians.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The Phantom Zone is another dimension. I don't see the problem.

Do you even know how the Phantom Zone works? In the Phantome Zone, you become a Phantom, unable to interact with anything, you have no powers, you have nothing. Bad case scenario you encounter other beings that wants to kill you. Worse case scenario you encounter the God of the Phantom Zone.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
...Why are you harping on the Miracle Machine being in a thread of New Krypton and Asgard for pages? Smh. Might as well bring up the IG for Asgard, it's about as relevant. Asgard has far more relevant reality warping weapons in its vault and even those haven't been mentioned.

If that's your line in the sand, you've answered the question of the thread yourself @Squallx.

Then name them! I bring up the MM because so far no one has bring up any counter to it.

The IG has being weaken to Universal power, where as the MM is a Multiversal tool. Does Asgard even poses the gems? Or is it just the Gauntlet?

There's also the Worlogog, no?

And we've seen exactly what happens when Asgard is attacked by a powerful being (let alone a whole army).

Yeah, sure, they have vaults upon vaults of super duper powerful weapons.

None of them get used, though. And Asgard burns.

I brought up Loki, and no one had a couner for that or Hela who have the power over life and death, and can make the kryptonians age until they die which she's done befoire, and have her death sword. and how does the kryptonians counter loki's intangbility and magic, and even get rid of him considering physical force won't work?

where's proof that these new kryptonians are even above moon level LOL?

asgard spites, so far nobodys shown any proof how kryptonians are gonna get through them

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I brought up Loki, and no one had a couner for that or Hela who have the power over life and death, and can make the kryptonians age until they die which she's done befoire, and have her death sword. and how does the kryptonians counter loki's intangbility and magic, and even get rid of him considering physical force won't work?

where's proof that these new kryptonians are even above moon level LOL?

asgard spites, so far nobodys shown any proof how kryptonians are gonna get through them

Yeah, the problem here is the sheer scale of their speed, and their numbers.

Apart from a handful (maybe...10?) Asgardians, the majority aren't anything to write home about.

Krypton numbers 100k. Even if we assume normal demographics (so children and elderly), even Kryptonian kids (see Zod's son) are still pretty dangerous compared to say, an Asgardian kid.

One on one, sure, Loki would destroy any Kryp. Two one one? Yeah. Five on one? Ten on one? 100 to 1?

And again, we saw what happen when a threat comes to Krypton (Doomsday). Kryps came out, swarmed him, and beat him to death.

When Mangog came? Hela didn't exactly pitch in. Amped Loki (as Sorceror Supreme at the time) turned tail and ran.

Why are you comparing Mangog to fodder kryptonians?