Originally posted by carver9
I feel confident 8 kryptonians wouldnt do a thing to a hostess Destroyer whereas Mangog chewed through a Destroyer armor that had a host. A hostess Destroyer armor didnt even have a scratch on it when the Phoenix Force unleashed on it.
I feel confident 100,000 Kryptonians combining their HV is as hot as the Sun.
Good job.
A random Kryp? Nah.
Five?
Ten?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Sure. I mean, unless you think Superman is equal to ten thousand Kryptonians or whatever. And that Jane is equal to 100,000, lol.
Remember, this Doomsday was the one that has come back from being slagged to bone by Imperiex. Tanked the Omega Beams. Had been beaten to death by Superman. Survived the detonation of a Guardian which ripped a hole in space and time.
Now, remember what the basic power of Doomsday is? Whatever kills him before, he would regenerate from and would become immune to it.
And after all the things I've mentioned before that killed him, he came back from. And he got his head squashed like a melon.
By about 8 Kryps.
Originally posted by carver9
Would you put a featless Kryptonian strength over Jane's? She couldnt even budge the Destroyer with her punch (and head smash). I know this is equivalent to 8 kryptonians but this gives us a good display on the Destroyer armor vs a High Herald strength...
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Also, you're making a massive fallacy here.
Jane Thor is High Herald, say. Which is a forum construction.
She couldn't even budge the Destroyer. So Destroyer is....trans?
Mangog effortlessly chewed through a dying host's Destroyer (I like how you missed that context out). So Mangog is....Skyfather?
Mangog died in the Sun. So we have:
Sun > Mangog > Destroyer > Jane, right?
Now...what does that mean for Kryptonians? Absolutely nothing. Because WE in the forum created the terms HH and trans etc.
All we have to compare and contrast, is to assume DC Sun = Marvel Sun, and then go from there.
Jane's performance against the Destroyer in the context of power levels means nothing when comparing to DC or Image, unless you have a baseline (i.e. the Sun) as a comparator.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
[B]A random Kryp? Nah.Five?
Ten?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Sure. I mean, unless you think Superman is equal to ten thousand Kryptonians or whatever. And that Jane is equal to 100,000, lol.
Remember, this Doomsday was the one that has come back from being slagged to bone by Imperiex. Tanked the Omega Beams. Had been beaten to death by Superman. Survived the detonation of a Guardian which ripped a hole in space and time.
Now, remember what the basic power of Doomsday is? Whatever kills him before, he would regenerate from and would become immune to it.
And after all the things I've mentioned before that killed him, he came back from. And he got his head squashed like a melon.
By about 8 Kryps. [/B]
The post I responded to said 5 or 6 kryptonians. 100 thousand, was never questioning that or even mentioned that. I replied to your previous post about a handful of Kryptonians.
They did kill Doomsday and yes, he did die by what you said and I am glad you mentioned this. Doomsday abilities, how does it work. Let's say Superman killed him by punching him to death, if someone stronger than Superman fought Doomsday, like Prime, would SBP or Guardian amp Prime punches be nothing to him since he died by physical means? Same for energy attacks. Darkseid Omegas killed him, would someone who is far more powerful energy blast be nothing to Doomsday?
Originally posted by carver9
The post I responded to said 5 or 6 kryptonians. 100 thousand, was never questioning that or even mentioned that. I replied to your previous post about a handful of Kryptonians.They did kill Doomsday and yes, he did die by what you said and I am glad you mentioned this. Doomsday abilities, how does it work. Let's say Superman killed him by punching him to death, if someone stronger than Superman fought Doomsday, like Prime, would SBP or Guardian amp Prime punches be nothing to him since he died by physical means? Same for energy attacks. Darkseid Omegas killed him, would someone who is far more powerful energy blast be nothing to Doomsday?
I thought you were responding to 100k, as that was the post you quoted...
Not sure why you would limit it to just five or six, anyway. As I said in my earlier posts, the problem is in the sheer numbers.
And no, it does not mean that he's immune to all physical attacks...what a bald faced attempt at a leading question!! We clearly see physical attacks still affect him.
Omegas never killed him, btw. Imperiex did. You should know, having read that story no less than four times.
But to reply, because despite your poor attempts at trolling I am in a good mood, with patience to spare.
A high herald like Superman killed him before. He came back. Therefore, to beat him to death again, would require MORE than a single HHs worth of strength, correct?
So 8 Kryps (or five, or six, whatever) Kryps are > HH level, when combined.
Any single one of them, no. Combined? Even ignoring their tech like the PZ, but just on their sheer physical stats like strength and speed?
Let's round up and say ten Kryps are equal to one HH (i.e Superman is worth 10 random Kryps).
100,000 Kryps is equal to....10,000 Superman level beings, lol.
Assume half can't fight (even though we've seen the kids are still pretty fricking lethal). 5,000 Superman level beings, attacking Asgard.
Sure, Asgard have pretty powerful guys. But let's be real, the Warriors Three/Sif etc aren't exactly up to that level.
So Asgard probably has about....20 top notch guys? That's being VERY generous. So 5,000 Superman level guys against 20 Asgardians.
Do you think Jane Thor could fight off 250 Supermen? At once?
OK.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, you're making a massive fallacy here.Jane Thor is High Herald, say. Which is a forum construction.
She couldn't even budge the Destroyer. So Destroyer is....trans?
Mangog effortlessly chewed through a dying host's Destroyer (I like how you missed that context out). So Mangog is....Skyfather?
Mangog died in the Sun. So we have:
Sun > Mangog > Destroyer > Jane, right?
Now...what does that mean for Kryptonians? Absolutely nothing. Because WE in the forum created the terms HH and trans etc.
All we have to compare and contrast, is to assume DC Sun = Marvel Sun, and then go from there.
Jane's performance against the Destroyer in the context of power levels means nothing when comparing to DC or Image, unless you have a baseline (i.e. the Sun) as a comparator.
I never brought up any tiering in my post. 😕
Mangog dying in the sun doesnt take away from his level of power.
Her strength defines at the MINIMUM what the Destroyer can brush off. Remember, this is the same girl who was said to be able to produce half of a planets strength, a person who threw a city from Earth into the sun. A person who ripped through amped Vibranium and Adamantium. I'm sure you see where I am going here.
Originally posted by carver9
I never brought up any tiering in my post. 😕
You didn't?
Originally posted by carver9
I know this is equivalent to 8 kryptonians but this gives us a good display on the Destroyer armor vs a High Herald strength...
Why do you get confused so easily??
Mangog dying in the sun doesnt take away from his level of power.Her strength defines at the MINIMUM what the Destroyer can brush off. Remember, this is the same girl who was said to be able to produce half of a planets strength, a person who threw a city from Earth into the sun. A person who ripped through amped Vibranium and Adamantium. I'm sure you see where I am going here.
Of course it doesn't. BUT it gives us a level from which to go to compare.
And yes, I can indeed see where you are trying to go with this.
So how many Kryps are equal to one Jane?
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Fodder kryptonians has never ripped through an industructable material destroyer made of
Fodder Kryptonians HAVE utterly curbstomped in few panels what it took Superman an entire book to do.
And they did it worse than what he did. It was completely one sided. And his head was smushed like a melon, compared to what Superman did in DoS. 🙂
Edit: Bazzie, you're acting like Asgard has prep. Time to get into the Destroyer etc.
What happens when 2,500 random Kryps converge on whichever poor Asgardian' is attempting to animate the Destroyer? And smush him?
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Lmao Jane punches couldn’t effect Destroyer but yet you think fodder kryptonians who needed assistance can effect destroyer?
So somewhere on Asgard, will be a normal standard Asgardian who is giving his life to animate the Destroyer.
What do you think happens if he gets attacked? You know, like when an army invades?
Lol.