New Krypton vs Asgard

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You didn't?

Why do you get confused so easily??

Of course it doesn't. BUT it gives us a level from which to go to compare.

And yes, I can indeed see where you are trying to go with this.

So how many Kryps are equal to one Jane?

I never said anyone was trans though. I didnt bump anyone up because they tanked something. That wasnt the point of my post.

Well, we have showings of a gang of Kryptonians strength. I want you to dissect this scan before commenting...

Because there are MANY areas I can go at with these scans. Observe please. Also, how strong are fodder kryptonians?

Originally posted by carver9
I never said anyone was trans though. I didnt bump anyone up because they tanked something. That wasnt the point of my post.

Well, we have showings of a gang of Kryptonians strength. I want you to dissect this scan before commenting...

Because there are MANY areas I can go at with these scans. Observe please. Also, how strong are fodder kryptonians?

Ok, I will dissect 🙂

How fast was that moon going? A very vital piece of information, don't you think?

Answering a question with a question, I see. How many Kryps is equal to one Jane?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, I will dissect 🙂

How fast was that moon going? A very vital piece of information, don't you think?

Answering a question with a question, I see. How many Kryps is equal to one Jane?

Not as fast as the moving planet Hyperion caught. 🙂

I would say they are fairly weaker than Jane since she have far greater fts. Is this not how we debate? So I cant say how many featless Kryptonians equal one Jane. People say Superman is twice as strong as Thor due to fts. Since Jane fts are FAR better than your average Kryptonian, we can say 3 or 4 Kryptonians equal one Jane. Thats IF we use KMC style debating.

Originally posted by carver9
Not as fast as the moving planet Hyperion caught. 🙂

Are you sure about that? 😉. I am about to own you horribly here lol. Like,horribly. Your attempts at being cute will backfire haha.

Hint: distance from Callisto (that moon) to Earth is 628.3 million km.

I wonder if that comic has a scan of the time the moon was going to take to travel that distance 🙂

I would say they are fairly weaker than Jane since she have far greater fts. Is this not how we debate? So I cant say how many featless Kryptonians equal one Jane. People say Superman is twice as strong as Thor due to fts. Since Jane fts are FAR better than your average Kryptonian, we can say 3 or 4 Kryptonians equal one Jane. Thats IF we use KMC style debating.

3 or 4. Ok.

I'm going to low-ball here. And say it's FIVE Kryptonians that equal 1 Jane.

100,000 Kryptonians? That's like 20,000 Jane Thors, hammering Asgard.

Lol. Asgard dies. One Jane was able to beat the crap out of Odin. Jane is far and away the best Asgardian', most of them are weak as hell.

20,000 Jane Thor level beings would decimate Asgard.

NICE! 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Lol. Asgard dies. One Jane was able to beat the crap out of Odin. Jane is far and away the best Asgardian', most of them are weak as hell.

Odin is not at his peak since a long time.

He admitted that his omnipotence isn't what it used to be.

Odin would be one-shotting kill random Kryptonian's like they were hand ninjas. So would the Destroyer.

It's how comics work. 100 named Kryptonian's would have a better chance of invading Asgard than 100,000 randoms.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin would be one-shotting kill random Kryptonian's like they were hand ninjas. So would the Destroyer.

It's how comics work. 100 named Kryptonian's would have a better chance of invading Asgard than 100,000 randoms.

That would be PIS then.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That would be PIS then.....

Did you read the New Krypton arc? If I went through it, I could probably come up with a shit load of examples of their mediocrity.

We laughed about the Brainaic mothership killing like dozens of Kryptonian's and impaling Superman when it fell for like 2 weeks here. You're going to tell me you find it hard to believe, that the Destroyer, much less Odin, would be punching through them like they were tissue paper? Heimdall would probably be chopping them in half. It'd be like watching an Invincible fight.

The more Kryptonian's were on panel, the less impressive they were.

100,000 Kryptonian's is A LOT. They should conquer galaxies if they had the power of Superman.

It's how comics work.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you read the New Krypton arc? If I went through it, I could probably come up with a shit load of examples of their mediocrity.

We laughed about the Brainaic mothership killing like dozens of Kryptonian's and impaling Superman when it fell for like 2 weeks here. You're going to tell me you find it hard to believe, that the Destroyer, much less Odin, would be punching through them like they were tissue paper? Heimdall would probably be chopping them in half. It'd be like watching an Invincible fight.

The more Kryptonian's were on panel, the less impressive they were.

100,000 Kryptonian's is A LOT. They should conquer galaxies if they had the power of Superman.

It's how comics work.

Sure.

I know and freely acknowledge they aren't Superman level. Never said they were. So dozens failing when Supes was impaled isn't anything new.

As I said, a handful did in a few panels what it took Superman entire books to do, kill DD. And he was more powerful. And they did it more easily.

Sure, lots of Kryps would be dropping like flies. Even more Asgardians would be, too. Sheer numbers. And random Asgardians are no way comparable to random Kryptonians.

That would leave the hero units of Asgard. And they number about...what, ten? 15, if we're being generous? Warriors 3, Sif, Freyja in the Destroyer, Odin, Jane, maybe Loki (fat lot of good he did with Mangog), Cul, Heimdall, maybe Odinson, Valkyrie if she's still about, Toothgnasher, Throg, that hellhound (starting to scrape the barrel here)...

Against....ok, let's say 5,000 Kryps (the others having ALL been killed).

The Destroyer is powerful, but the host body is weak,btw.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you read the New Krypton arc? If I went through it, I could probably come up with a shit load of examples of their mediocrity.

We laughed about the Brainaic mothership killing like dozens of Kryptonian's and impaling Superman when it fell for like 2 weeks here. You're going to tell me you find it hard to believe, that the Destroyer, much less Odin, would be punching through them like they were tissue paper? Heimdall would probably be chopping them in half. It'd be like watching an Invincible fight.

The more Kryptonian's were on panel, the less impressive they were.

100,000 Kryptonian's is A LOT. They should conquer galaxies if they had the power of Superman.

It's how comics work.

I forgot about the Black Lightning showing. Lol, and people want to mention the sun for Mangog.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure.

I know and freely acknowledge they aren't Superman level. Never said they were. So dozens failing when Supes was impaled isn't anything new.

As I said, a handful did in a few panels what it took Superman entire books to do, kill DD. And he was more powerful. And they did it more easily.

Sure, lots of Kryps would be dropping like flies. Even more Asgardians would be, too. Sheer numbers. And random Asgardians are no way comparable to random Kryptonians.

That would leave the hero units of Asgard. And they number about...what, ten? 15, if we're being generous? Warriors 3, Sif, Freyja in the Destroyer, Odin, Jane, maybe Loki (fat lot of good he did with Mangog), Cul, Heimdall, maybe Odinson, Valkyrie if she's still about, Toothgnasher, Throg, that hellhound (starting to scrape the barrel here)...

Against....ok, let's say 5,000 Kryps (the others having ALL been killed).

The Destroyer is powerful, but the host body is weak,btw.

In no way is a random Asgardian equivalent to a random Kryptonian, but Asgard has a lot higher ceiling.

We could turn this into a "non-PIS" fight, but....than Asgard starts shitting magic, Red Solar Radiation, and Kryptonite. And we COULD use Kryptonian's at their logical high end power level that they SHOULD reside at (but DON'T) but we could do the same to Odin and.....well, what happens if Odin don's the Destroyer Armor, dual wields the Odinsword and Twilight Sword? Cul as the God of Fear (When actually feeding on Fear) wouldn't even need help. This is ASGARD. The source of the most powerful magic in the Marvel Universe. Odin at full power is capable of galactic level power, he could literally change all Solar Radiation in the vicinity to Red with a blink. He's restored an entire race, civilizations etc. and has omniscience (He'll know their weaknesses). What's stopping him from turning every piece of matter in the 200km into Kryptonite? Every random Kryptonian except Superman/Supergirl would almost instantly be rendered useless.

Unless Superman actually does magically shit out the Miracle Machine, the All-Father just walks through the entire race if we consider this a "non-PIS" fight and try to bring it to it's logical conclusion.

But we can play what-ifs all day. Imo, Asgard wins. Odin is too much to overcome. We could use him at much weaker portrayals but we would do the same to Kryptonian's...and relatively speaking, not much has changed because Asgard still has a few weapons that would win this war.

Superman alone beats up Odin..so no.

kryptonian = sun > Mangog > Mjolnir > Odin > Thor > common asgardian

All the inequalities are canon in current MU.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In no way is a random Asgardian equivalent to a random Kryptonian, but Asgard has a lot higher ceiling.

Is that so?

We could turn this into a "non-PIS" fight, but....than Asgard starts shitting magic, Red Solar Radiation, and Kryptonite. And we COULD use Kryptonian's at their logical high end power level that they SHOULD reside at (but DON'T) but we could do the same to Odin and.....well, what happens if Odin don's the Destroyer Armor, dual wields the Odinsword and Twilight Sword?

But we can play what-ifs all day. Imo, Asgard wins. Odin is too much to overcome. We could use him at much weaker portrayals but we would do the same to Kryptonian's...and relatively speaking, not much has changed because Asgard still has a few weapons that would win this war.

Odin would get his shit pushed in. Kryptoninans have weapons of their own and some of the most powerful technology at their disposal.

So powerful that Mr. Terrific and Hawkman were taking them apart lmao.

Originally posted by krisblaze
So powerful that Mr. Terrific and Hawkman were taking them apart lmao.

Better than the rest of Asgard, who are just farmers....

Originally posted by krisblaze
So powerful that Mr. Terrific and Hawkman were taking them apart lmao.

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It's funny reading threads like these, and then realizing these same people are the ones criticizing carver for lowballing.

Zod and a few other kryptonians took over and beat the entire DCU Earth Heroes in Geoff Johns Last Son arc.

In the New Krypton finale, even after most of the kryptonians were dead due to red sun/gold kryptonite, and Earth was armed to the teeth with their weaknesses after months of prep [kryptonite of all kinds], they still needed the PZ projector.

Space ants >>> Terrific + Hawkman >>> Kryptonians