Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)

Started by Silent Master119 pages

No, boycott means "to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (a person, a store, an organization, etc.) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of certain conditions"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boycott

That isn't why I'm not watching the movie.

Will be interesting to see how much money this ends up making, seeing as so many have been saying after Last Jedi and Solo that Star Wars is dead. This movie is going to be the main source of evidence one way or another if that's the case.

@sm Also: "refuse to buy or handle (goods) as a punishment or protest."

I'm not doing it as a form of punishment or protest.

Originally posted by BackFire
Will be interesting to see how much money this ends up making, seeing as so many have been saying after Last Jedi and Solo that Star Wars is dead. This movie is going to be the main source of evidence one way or another if that's the case.

ep7 - 2.06bil
ep8 - 1.3bil

I believe ep8 took a hit because 1) it was shittier than 7 and China didn't like it because the Luke character did poorly in that market. If you've not followed the OT, Luke was just some goofy old man doing stuff you had little to no interest in, aside from maybe having sex with beach bound BBW aliens.

I think this one will make somewhere in between, it's supposed to be action packed and the characters are mostly familiar. Going to be interesting how the Palpatine angle plays out. Could really affect sales via word of mouth, either up or down.

Originally posted by BackFire
after Last Jedi and Solo that Star Wars is dead. This movie is going to be the main source of evidence one way or another if that's the case.

More like after this movie, this shitty story line with these shitty characters is dead. The entirety of the SW universe isn't though, and can be expanded and remedied if done correctly. That's a big IF, but not out of the question. Not everything has to be about the Skywalker's and the like. Time to move on from that.

Originally posted by Robtard
ep7 - 2.06bil
ep8 - 1.3bil

I believe ep8 took a hit because 1) it was shittier than 7 and China didn't like it because the Luke character did poorly in that market. If you've not followed the OT, Luke was just some goofy old man doing stuff you had little to no interest in, aside from maybe having sex with beach bound BBW aliens.

I think this one will make somewhere in between, it's supposed to be action packed and the characters are mostly familiar. Going to be interesting how the Palpatine angle plays out. Could really affect sales via word of mouth, either up or down.

Where's 2?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yep, people just sitting there saying "Thank you sir, may I have another" is part of the reason these movies have been so bad. the filmmakers knew they didn't have to make good movies, the movies just had to be flashy and a certain percentage of people would line up and pay Disney to jangle keys in front of their face for 2 hours.
unfortunately in comparison to this upcoming film, the whole key jangling thing doesnt sound so bad.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Where's 2?

Originally posted by Robtard
ep7 - 2.06bil
ep8 - 1.3bil

1) it was shittier than 7

No - Episode 7 did better because more people bought tickets with the expectation that the Disney Trilogy would be some kind of continuation of the EU novels.

Afterwards many people ended up being disappointed - notably Mark Hamill.

Originally posted by Robtard

I believe ep8 took a hit because China didn't like it because the Luke character did poorly in that market.

Uh, no. It had precisely nothing to do with Luke.

No offense, but you clearly have no clue of what you’re talking about.

- China rejected The Last Jedi due to the scene where Finn and Rose kiss.

The Chinese leaders are racist towards blacks and they took great offense to a movie with an Asian girl having a relationship with a black man - that is why they rejected the movie and wanted nothing to do with it.

The Chinese have even gotten criticism for racist commercials such as this:
YouTube video

I think you probably overestimate how many people read the EU stuff.

Fact is most people who go see Star Wars aren't terribly passionate about it. They go because they're fun movies and they bring about nostalgic feelings from their childhood. I imagine the people who have read any star wars books or who are any more than vaguely familiar with the EU amounts to a small percentage of people.

TFA did so well because it was the first new Star Wars sequel since ROTJ, it had the old cast back, and because Disney did an amazing job of hyping the shit out of it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I actually did really enjoy Rogue One. Thats by far the best of the Disney Star Wars films.

Solo was fine. But nothing spectacular and really added nothing to the saga aside from the Crimson Dawn twist.

It gave us more Chewie than the ST did, and we got to see young Lando, which I liked. Plus, I finally got to see a bit of Corellia and Kessel.

Not a whole lot, no, but I don't think it's fair to say it added nothing either.

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I watched Empire and Jedi last night, and tried to pay attention to them more than I usually do. JFC, the characters, the dialogue, so much of it is all so on-point and believable that it puts what came after them to shame.

I have to watch TFA and TLJ today (lucky ****ing me), and I'm already dreading TLJ. As far as TROS goes, Abrams might not be as much of a ****ing hack as Rian is, but I'm starting to feel like Rian might have ****ed things up so badly that even someone that was twice the writer Abrams is, would have trouble with trying to repair all his ****-ups.

Abrams is great at visuals, but not much else imo.

That said, I want to be wrong. I want Abrams to surprise me. I just don't see it happening.

Originally posted by BackFire
Will be interesting to see how much money this ends up making, seeing as so many have been saying after Last Jedi and Solo that Star Wars is dead. This movie is going to be the main source of evidence one way or another if that's the case.

A bit anecdotal, but I was at the pre-premiere of TFA with a bunch of friends. They went to TLJ, which I skipped, and now no one is going to TRoS. Sentiments around the office seem to be the same. I think this one is going to be hit hard, especially with all of these terrible leaks. It might make less than TLJ.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_rise_of_skywalker

Currently sitting at 57%.

Christmas has come early lads.

Lmao. I guess that's what happens when you defend TLJ from the "toxic fanbase" for 2 years and Disney throws you under the bus.

It’s getting review bombed by one of the most toxic fan bases for a t popular franchise
Zero surprise here

Originally posted by -Pr-
It gave us more Chewie than the ST did, and we got to see young Lando, which I liked. Plus, I finally got to see a bit of Corellia and Kessel.

Not a whole lot, no, but I don't think it's fair to say it added nothing either.

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I watched Empire and Jedi last night, and tried to pay attention to them more than I usually do. JFC, the characters, the dialogue, so much of it is all so on-point and believable that it puts what came after them to shame.

I have to watch TFA and TLJ today (lucky ****ing me), and I'm already dreading TLJ. As far as TROS goes, Abrams might not be as much of a ****ing hack as Rian is, but I'm starting to feel like Rian might have ****ed things up so badly that even someone that was twice the writer Abrams is, would have trouble with trying to repair all his ****-ups.

Abrams is great at visuals, but not much else imo.

That said, I want to be wrong. I want Abrams to surprise me. I just don't see it happening.

Oh Lando and Chewie were great. Yeah ill give you that there were a few things.

Lol im also doing a triple bill of the ST today.

Honestly I blame both Abrams and Rian (and of course Kennedy). Because TFA was just stupid the way it played on OT nostalgia but made no sense in the process. Then Rian came along and just shat on Luke for no reason whatsoever. Heck he even shat on Poe and Finn who were both actually fine in TFA.

So yeah Abrams was kinda stuck from the start with this, but hes not blameless himself. But will give him props for Attempting to bring The fandom together.

Originally posted by carthage
It’s getting review bombed by one of the most toxic fan bases for a t popular franchise
Zero surprise here

It's the critical score that's doing poorly not the audience score...

Originally posted by BackFire
Will be interesting to see how much money this ends up making, seeing as so many have been saying after Last Jedi and Solo that Star Wars is dead. This movie is going to be the main source of evidence one way or another if that's the case.

When people say its dead, pretty sure they mean its dead to them. Dont think anyone ever seriously thought this wouldnt be a billion dollar film though.

However the decrease in hype trajectory was clearly shown in the box office results from TFA to TLJ. And yes Solo flopping a few months later was hardly a positive sign.

Originally posted by BackFire

TFA did so well because it was the first new Star Wars sequel since ROTJ, it had the old cast back, and because Disney did an amazing job of hyping the shit out of it.

Yes thats exactly why.

I also feel people genuinely felt they loved it, but over time realised it wasnt all that.

carthage, professional critics don't review bomb movies, mate.