Originally posted by PhilosophíaI have an idea. Thanos though that wasn't longterm.
You can't even imagine how nervous I feel with Bendis. Superman is basically the sole reason I'm still reading comics. I gave up Batman with Tom King.Try Red Hood & Outlwas [current series] and see if you like it...but start from issue #1.
I think Bendis should treat him right powerwise. I think he is going to be awful though in terms of story.
He might be trying to put on a show though, so he might not start trying to ruin him until a couple years down the line when he proves himself.
Who ****ing knows though? This Rondar retcon has me worried they gave him too much freedom.
I'll add it to my list.
Originally posted by One Big MobI'm already worried about Supergirl being in the story [and apparently a big part of Bendis' plans]. Not to mention, after this arc, according to the Supergirl August solicitations [I'll put this in spoilers in case you don't want to read]:
I have an idea. Thanos though that wasn't longterm.I think Bendis should treat him right powerwise. I think he is going to be awful though in terms of story.
He might be trying to put on a show though, so he might not start trying to ruin him until a couple years down the line when he proves himself.
Who ****ing knows though? This Rondar retcon has me worried they gave him too much freedom.I'll add it to my list.
Spoiler:
She's the one hunting Rogol and trying to find out the secrets.SUPERGIRL #21
written by MARC ANDREYKO
art by KEVIN MAGUIRE
cover by TERRY DODSON and RACHEL DODSON
variant cover by AMANDA CONNER
blank variant cover available
Mourning the loss of the Kryptonians wiped out by Rogol Zaar, Supergirl decides to play detective and sets off into deep space to learn more about the would-be usurper. Using whatever tech she can scrounge, Supergirl builds a star cruiser, and after intel from Green Lantern, she blasts off into the cosmos with Rogol Zaar’s deadly axe to solve the mystery—along with a traveling companion you won’t believe!
Depowered: WW mops the floor with Supes.
Powered: Supes wins comfortably without weapons and still solidly with weapons.
Although i have to say the Supes wank and WW lowballing in their actual comparisons after tons of lip-service by DC are outright pathetic, Supes and WW should be a very, very close fight with weapons(and bring Clark to his limits if serious) and not that whooops WW is supposed to be around Supes but actually isn't shit-show that usually happens.
The general idea to put Supes notably above the other heavy hitters of the JL(like in the DCEU as an especially worse example) is something i dislike a lot and that DC actively undermines characters for the sake of Supes and Bats is anyways a big problem. But well that is just my personal rant about DC politics.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
I have an idea. Thanos though that wasn't longterm.I think Bendis should treat him right powerwise. I think he is going to be awful though in terms of story.
He might be trying to put on a show though, so he might not start trying to ruin him until a couple years down the line when he proves himself.
Who ****ing knows though? This Rondar retcon has me worried they gave him too much freedom.I'll add it to my list.
Bendis will make his fans think he'll ruin the character, but I don't believe he'll actually do it.
DC only tends to look the other way on non canon stories, like Injustice or Frank Miller's abominations. I'm certain DC knows Bendis's reputation, and they likely have him on enough of a short leash that any hint of a threat gets edited out at best, or Bendis gets moved off the project at worst (Assuming DC didn't shackle themselves in a contract..)
Originally posted by -Pr-
I was more asking how your point is reconciled with the Superman Wonder Woman book, where she was regularly treated as the star of the book.
Well besides the fact that the Superman/Wonder Woman book was clearly more a Superman book(how much parts of the Wonderverse did you rly see there?) had even that just a few moments, which is nothing in contrary to the whole rest(let alone other media like the DCEU).
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Superman stomps.
Bullshit, Supes clearly wins this but he is still far away from stomping outside of the DCEU(especially with weapons and under neutral circumstances).
But well this is a prime example how DC's poitics leads to this kind of Superman wank, especially among people who barely know much about the actual comics.
Originally posted by gunchar
Well besides the fact that the Superman/Wonder Woman book was clearly more a Superman book(how much parts of the Wonderverse did you rly see there?) had even that just a few moments, which is nothing in contrary to the whole rest(let alone other media like the DCEU).
I'll grant you that there's plenty of stories about Superman's villains and lore, but even then, it still felt to me like Wonder Woman was more the star of the book than he was.
It annoyed me particularly because I was hoping for a book like Superman Batman. The one Loeb started I mean, not that Pak monstrosity.
I am interested in your point though. Do you think Wonder Woman isn't written more as Superman's equal because of politics or sexism, rather than them just thinking "well, he's stronger than she is"?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll grant you that there's plenty of stories about Superman's villains and lore, but even then, it still felt to me like Wonder Woman was more the star of the book than he was.
She looked quite a few times like that, but like mentioned it felt more like WW visits the Superverse(and looks good while doing it). But i actually didn't like the weird way how the first fight against Zod and Faora looked for example, i mean Supes got bullied by them and then came WW in and pretty much rocked them like a hurricane(skill and gear advantage sure, but that looked like Supes would be some weakling who is completely out of his league there).
Originally posted by -Pr-
It annoyed me particularly because I was hoping for a book like Superman Batman. The one Loeb started I mean, not that Pak monstrosity.
Well the majority of Superman/Wonder Woman was a big mess in my opinion, so yeah i was also hoping for something different.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I am interested in your point though. Do you think Wonder Woman isn't written more as Superman's equal because of politics or sexism,
Sexism was in the past without the slightest doubt a big part of it, today probably/hopefully not so much anymore(with exceptions).
But Politics yeah, that's clearly one of the main reasons.
Originally posted by -Pr-
rather than them just thinking "well, he's stronger than she is"?
Going by some interviews is that also a relevant reason, but in a way that many of the writers apparently don't know much about WW(let alone her villains and supporting cast) at all in combination with pretty weird ideas(Priest and Robinson as prime examples for at least the latter). Which also explains the big mess Cheetah for example.