I feel like the DCEU villains have gotten steadily less impressive. You had Doomsday, who was a nigh-unstoppable Superman+ level opponent. Then a slight step down with full-powered Enchantress was conjuring up storms that was devastating huge areas, blasting apart satellites in orbit etc. Then Ares, who seemed like Magneto with super strength and such. And then Steppenwolf, who was basically a big brick with an axe.
The villains have become steadily more mediocre as the films have progressed IMO.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I feel like the DCEU villains have gotten steadily less impressive. You had Doomsday, who was a nigh-unstoppable Superman+ level opponent. Then a slight step down with full-powered Enchantress was conjuring up storms that was devastating huge areas, blasting apart satellites in orbit etc. Then Ares, who seemed like Magneto with super strength and such. And then Steppenwolf, who was basically a big brick with an axe.The villains have become steadily more mediocre as the films have progressed IMO.
Yeah, they are either over powered and retarded, or under powered and retarded.
Except for Zod, he was cool.
the villains had potential to be REAL bad but dc messed things up; uncle stepps axe was EASILY cut in two DD had his limbs sliced from a sword we know nothing about&ares was completely obliterated by redirected lightening.
Its hard to really debate them in a fight.
well lemme just say uncle stepp wins this.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah, they are either over powered and retarded, or under powered and retarded.Except for Zod, he was cool.
Even Zod wasn't handled that great. I mean, he's supposed to be one of the greatest warriors of his race and then he gets outfought by a scientist and a farmboy whose never been in a fight in his life.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Even Zod wasn't handled that great. I mean, he's supposed to be one of the greatest warriors of his race and then he gets outfought by a scientist and a farmboy whose never been in a fight in his life.
Well the farm boy was clearly better at using his powers.
The scientist made no sense though.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well the farm boy was clearly better at using his powers.The scientist made no sense though.
Yes but they didn't show that. We didn't see Zod outskilling Clark like Faora did, neither did we see Clark beat Zod due to better mastery of his powers.
Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you. Just saying that we concluded Clark won via better mastery of his powers because that's the only logic that would make sense. But it certainly wasn't shown in their fight. Clark was matching Zod blow for blow.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but they didn't [b]show that. We didn't see Zod outskilling Clark like Faora did, neither did we see Clark beat Zod due to better mastery of his powers.Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you. Just saying that we concluded Clark won via better mastery of his powers because that's the only logic that would make sense. But it certainly wasn't shown in their fight. Clark was matching Zod blow for blow. [/B]
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but they didn't [b]show that. We didn't see Zod outskilling Clark like Faora did, neither did we see Clark beat Zod due to better mastery of his powers.Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you. Just saying that we concluded Clark won via better mastery of his powers because that's the only logic that would make sense. But it certainly wasn't shown in their fight. Clark was matching Zod blow for blow. [/B]
Agreed. Made no sense how Zod lost every encounter from Krypton to Earth in which he fought. Zod's losses were explained thru thematic and expository elements in the MoS, not shown feats.
Cinemasins pointed out in their Superman (maybe Superman II?) critique video that Jor-El giving the final sentence to banish Terrence Stamp and crew didn't make sense as he was just a scientist as well, not a judge.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but they didn't [b]show that. We didn't see Zod outskilling Clark like Faora did, neither did we see Clark beat Zod due to better mastery of his powers.Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you. Just saying that we concluded Clark won via better mastery of his powers because that's the only logic that would make sense. But it certainly wasn't shown in their fight. Clark was matching Zod blow for blow. [/B]
I mean I assume that just due to the fact that the other Krptonians could not fly.
Took Zod time to utilise speed and even heat vision.
So based on that even when he could use those 2 powers, Im gonna assume Kal was still the better adept at using his abilities.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I mean I assume that just due to the fact that the other Krptonians could not fly.Took Zod time to utilise speed and even heat vision.
So based on that even when he could use those 2 powers, Im gonna assume Kal was still the better adept at using his abilities.
That's what I'm saying. We're assuming. Once Zod fully unlocked all his powers he was fighting pretty much the same way Kal was. They didn't show us that Zod was more skilled nor that Kal's power mastery was giving him the edge. At least with the Kal vs. Faora fight we saw that Superman had more powers at his disposal whereas Faora was outskilling him in a straight fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
Imo Ares was more impressive.
Lightning alone could possibly kill Steppenwolf.
Then he can lift Steppenwolf with tk (he controlled metal like Magneto)
He was shown to be more durable.
In JL we see Steppenwolf (and Parademons I guess) fighting against Amazons, Atlanteans, Green Lanterns, and literal Olympian Gods. Zeus AND Ares were both present and neither was able to beat Steppenwolf himself. He was only defeated cuz they stopped the boxes from converging. So If Ares was his better, the rest wouldn't be needed.
And I know it was an all out war but the Parademons weren't all that so you'd think that the best fighters would target Steppen yet none were able to put him down. He is clearly intended to be superior to the old gods be quite a margen