Steppenwolf vs Ares

Originally posted by juggerman
1. Watch the scene again. He creates a bolt and tosses it. Wonder Woman is walking slowly towards him, speaks a full slow sentence before blocking it. If it moved anywhere near as fast as natural lightning she wouldn't have had time for any of that

2. Show him ripping armor from an opponent

3. It seemed like you were trying to claim it would be directly in the middle, while it would really be on the lower end.

4. Wonder Woman was able to block the axe while Ares can't. He dies

1. No, the scene had him talking while he was manipulating lightning. When he shot it forward, it traveled to her nigh instantly.

2. You misunderstood what I wrote.

3. Actually, I disagree. I'm not going to be sandwiched. Most here use a character's best as the standard. I'm not going to change standards back and forth. Also if a character moves at light speed once and at 10mph 3 times then his average would be (lightspeed + 10 +10+10)/3 = large number.
Anyway, a rule is that characters fight to the best (not average) of their ability.

4. No, WW got tagged with the axe without blocking, so did Aquaman. When she blocked, hardly anything happened.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. No, the scene had him talking while he was manipulating lightning. When he shot it forward, it traveled to her nigh instantly.

2. You misunderstood what I wrote.

3. Actually, I disagree. I'm not going to be sandwiched. Most here use a character's best as the standard. I'm not going to change standards back and forth. Also if a character moves at light speed once and at 10mph 3 times then his average would be (lightspeed + 10 +10+10)/3 = large number.
Anyway, a rule is that characters fight to the best (not average) of their ability.

4. No, WW got tagged with the axe without blocking, so did Aquaman. When she blocked, hardly anything happened.

1. Watch it again. He throws it and WW has ages to block

2. If you say so

3. I know you disagree but you're wrong. We use highs and lows yes but you are arguing powerset and not character. Superman can heat vision someone's face off as soon as the bell rings but that's not the way he does things

4. WW >> Ares

Steppenwolf stomps Ares' stupid mastached face into oblivion. He fared far better against WW.

Ares is a disgrace of a villain on par with Doom in Fan4stic.

Originally posted by juggerman
1. Watch it again. He throws it and WW has ages to block

2. If you say so

3. I know you disagree but you're wrong. We use highs and lows yes but you are arguing powerset and not character. Superman can heat vision someone's face off as soon as the bell rings but that's not the way he does things

4. WW >> Ares

4. Only because of the bracers. Thus it's now rock paper scissors logic.

H1 no. Ares is weak compared to Steppenwolf.

Steppenwolf, lol.

Diana showed that she could react to or no-sell all of Ares' attacks, up to his quickest. Steppenwolf seemed at least on par with her in speed and was more formidable overall. He'd avoid or tank Ares' attacks and beat him down. It wouldn't be that close.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. I'm referring to the 2nd blast.
Anyway, Steppenwolf can't dodge a continuous flow of lightning.
3. What a character does is based off their intelligence. Just because a character does something contrary to their intelligence (not morals) simple implies PIS. But this has nothing to do with "fight to the best of their ability".

4. Only because of the bracers. Thus it's now rock paper scissors logic.

1, Oh you mean the one he had to charge up for several seconds and pay full attention to? Yeah, Steppenwolf merks him before he can fire it off

3. Actually, what a character does in a fight shows the way they fight. Ares attacked head on and basically stayed in place unless he was struck. He didn't dodge much. So for you to claim that suddenly he would dodge and keep distance above all else when he hasn't shown that to be his go to fighting style is asinine.

4. WW struck Ares multiple times easily. Steppenwolf needs to do so only once

H1 is to debating is what fly is to social interactions, terrible.