Originally posted by carver9Thragg stomps tbh.
Can you back that up, please? Because in my opinion Zod literally oneshots Thragg.
Invincible was a 30 tonner at the beginning and fighting adult Viltrumites. More powerful ones were +100 tonners, but nothing really implied "incalculable" high herald level strenght. At best top tier Viltrumites are low heralds.
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy a planet. And they still needed help first in form of someone shooting them the way free into the ground. If that hadn't happened first, they would have probably died upon impact with the planet - according to their own admission.
Does anyone here see Zod crashing into a planet and dying in process? I don't. Mid herald bricks have the durability to survive that.
Originally posted by Enzeruthis is lowballing of the highest order.
Can you back that up, please? Because in my opinion Zod literally oneshots Thragg.Invincible was a 30 tonner at the beginning and fighting adult Viltrumites. More powerful ones were +100 tonners, but nothing really implied "incalculable" high herald level strenght. At best top tier Viltrumites are low heralds.
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy a planet. And they still needed help first in form of someone shooting them the way free into the ground. If that hadn't happened first, they would have probably died upon impact with the planet - according to their own admission.
Does anyone here see Zod crashing into a planet and dying in process? I don't. Mid herald bricks have the durability to survive that.
Invincible's beginning strength shouldn't matter and even then, he was significantly stronger than the thirty ton range.
Hell, before he even started working out, he was explicitly stated/shown to be able to casually bench 400 tons.
As for other Viltrimites, let's look at one of the more noteworthy ones. Here we can see Conquest (who almost killed Invincible) is encased in 400 tons of steel while he heals from his injuries. Pay attention to what's being said here:
Wait a second, did he just casually move 400 tons in addition to the six miles of solid rock that fell on him?
A planet that we have no idea of the size of. For all we know, Viltrum was the size of Mars. We do however know that it would have to be significantly more dense than earth in order for beings like the Viltrumites to live on it. You're also ignoring that Thragg hilariously outclassed those "three Viltrumites".
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Would you look at that? It looks like Thragg actually owned four Viltrumites including Allen and Battle Beast.
Nobody thinks that Thragg would die on impact with a planet because he was leagues above those three. You're also ignoring that he literally tanked the shockwave/explosion of the planet.
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But yeah, he's clearly low herald at best.
😂
Originally posted by deathslash
this is lowballing of the highest order.Invincible's beginning strength shouldn't matter and even then, he was significantly stronger than the thirty ton range.
Hell, before he even started working out, he was explicitly stated/shown to be able to casually bench 400 tons.
As for other Viltrimites, let's look at one of the more noteworthy ones. Here we can see Conquest (who almost killed Invincible) is encased in 400 tons of steel while he heals from his injuries. Pay attention to what's being said here:
Wait a second, did he just casually move 400 tons in addition to the [b]six miles of solid rock
that fell on him?A planet that we have no idea of the size of. For all we know, Viltrum was the size of Mars. We do however know that it would have to be significantly more dense than earth in order for beings like the Viltrumites to live on it. You're also ignoring that Thragg hilariously outclassed those "three Viltrumites".
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395169-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%281%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395170-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%282%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395171-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%283%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395173-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%285%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395174-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%286%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395175-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%287%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395176-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%288%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395177-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%289%29.pngWould you look at that? It looks like Thragg actually owned four Viltrumites including Allen and Battle Beast.
Nobody thinks that Thragg would die on impact with a planet because he was leagues above those three. You're also ignoring that he literally tanked the shockwave/explosion of the planet.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397322-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%283%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397323-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%284%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397324-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%285%29.pngBut yeah, he's clearly low herald at best.
😂 [/B]
This is ownage of the highest order.
Originally posted by CosmicCometfour hundred tons wasn't his upper strength level though. That was his starting strength. Anyway, mark was as strong as Conquest by his second fight with him and Conquest moved four hundred tons in addition to the six miles of rock on top of his head so......yeah.
400 tons? That's it?How much stronger does Mark get than that later on?
Even if Thragg is 1 million times stronger than that, he still isn't close to Zod in strength.
Also, when Mark beat Conquest for the second time, he was just a little bit under Nolan as far as strength and Nolan, Mark, Thaddeus, Battle Beast, and Omni-boy got absolutely raped by Thragg.
Originally posted by deathslash
this is lowballing of the highest order.Invincible's beginning strength shouldn't matter and even then, he was significantly stronger than the thirty ton range.
Hell, before he even started working out, he was explicitly stated/shown to be able to casually bench 400 tons.
As for other Viltrimites, let's look at one of the more noteworthy ones. Here we can see Conquest (who almost killed Invincible) is encased in 400 tons of steel while he heals from his injuries. Pay attention to what's being said here:
Wait a second, did he just casually move 400 tons in addition to the [b]six miles of solid rock
that fell on him?A planet that we have no idea of the size of. For all we know, Viltrum was the size of Mars. We do however know that it would have to be significantly more dense than earth in order for beings like the Viltrumites to live on it. You're also ignoring that Thragg hilariously outclassed those "three Viltrumites".
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395169-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%281%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395170-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%282%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395171-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%283%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395173-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%285%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395174-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%286%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395175-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%287%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395176-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%288%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3395177-thragg+vs+invincible+and+omni+man+%2376+%289%29.pngWould you look at that? It looks like Thragg actually owned four Viltrumites including Allen and Battle Beast.
Nobody thinks that Thragg would die on impact with a planet because he was leagues above those three. You're also ignoring that he literally tanked the shockwave/explosion of the planet.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397322-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%283%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397323-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%284%29.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131174/3397324-invincible+feat+strength+planet+destroyer+%285%29.pngBut yeah, he's clearly low herald at best.
😂 [/B]
That's it? Zod stalemated Superman, who benched the weight of an entire planet. These two are not even close in terms of strength.