Originally posted by deathslash
you don't have to be an authority on superman in order to know or state where other characters are in relation to him. If Stan Lee said that the silver surfer is superman level, then guess where he is.
If Stan Lee said that Beast is Superman level would that make it so?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
If Stan Lee said that Beast is Superman level would that make it so?
Stop being obtuse, or I may begin calling you Captain Bunghole. These are fictitious characters, which means that they can make a character 7 billion times more powerful than Superman after he stops holding back.
Deathslash is exactly correct. Not to mention that Zod has several years to go in order to be as powerful as Kal, and we know that this will never happen in a comics medium, because these are guys that never age. I mean Peter Parker is older than many grand parents and yet.... You see where I'm going with this right?
Zod is the Walmart version of Superman, whereas Supreme was stated to be even more powerful than any man of steel at the time of his creation.
Thragg made Supreme look like a light weight. For all intents and purposes (as well as strong implications), Thragg should rag doll Zod, while Zod should be able to roast him alive if he manages to keep from having his eyes poked out at the beginning of the battle.
Originally posted by deathslash
you don't have to be an authority on superman in order to know or state where other characters are in relation to him. If Stan Lee said that the silver surfer is superman level, then guess where he is.
Except not, as Stan Lee has no say on how powerful superman is. He doesn't get a vote beyond any fan supposition, really.
Now, if it was a defining superman writer, It may hold some weight.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Your usual stance at avoiding the debate by searching excuses is dully noted.You are not in position to criticize my comprehension, your posts are full of bias, in the best case.
I've never said that he was alone doing the action, I said that Rogue's action was irrelevant, thus making it alike he was alone to perform the feat.
Again, you are in no position to criticize my comprehension.
You don't even get the nuances in what you are attempting to read.
This tells more about you than it tells about me.
Your childish attempt failed shortly. 👆
I'm still waiting for the scans that are supposed to exist to prove your point and I will wait for a long time.
Your logic is laughabe. If Rogue was there aiding in the lifting feat, it's inadmissible as a solo showing. Sentry NEVER did that feat alone, period. It's a shared feat, exclusively.
The fact that you're too idiotic to grasp this is why every post you make is an inherent joke.
Originally posted by panthergod
Except not, as Stan Lee has no say on how powerful superman is. He doesn't get a vote beyond any fan supposition, really.Now, if it was a defining superman writer, It may hold some weight.
Didn't Joe Casey claim his probe busting Superman could have taken on Imperiex, right then and there?
Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't Joe Casey claim his probe busting Superman could have taken on Imperiex, right then and there?
See what I mean? As fictitious characters go, you can raise their power level or lower it however much you please. It isn't as if any one particular writer has to place a hard limit on them as if they were some kind of real life power lifter with very real human limits.
Originally posted by panthergod
Your logic is laughabe. If Rogue was there aiding in the lifting feat, it's inadmissible as a solo showing. Sentry NEVER did that feat alone, period. It's a shared feat, exclusively.The fact that you're too idiotic to grasp this is why every post you make is an inherent joke.
The fact that you are too idiotic to grasp the fact that Rogue's help was unnoticeable by Exitar is laughable.
The power of Exitar is just VASTLY beyond the power of all heroes on Earth combined.
Again, you have no sense of scale.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The fact that you are too idiotic to grasp the fact that Rogue's help was unnoticeable by Exitar is laughable.The power of Exitar is just VASTLY beyond the power of all heroes on Earth combined.
period.
Until you grasp this everything you say is worth less than shit.
Originally posted by panthergod
Hey idiot... two people lifting something means neither person did it alone.period.
Until you grasp this everything you say is worth less than shit.
Again, Rogue did nothing.
She was there but she had no power to do anything.
That was shown on panel.
I guess that by your logic, if a quadriplegic assist a power-lifter to hold 500 lbs this is a shared feat too, right ?
You have no right to call me an idiot.
Everything you new thing you post is even worse than the former and shows your lack of reading comprehension.
She did NOTHING.
She was an insect from Exitar's perspective.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The fact that you are too idiotic to grasp the fact that Rogue's help was unnoticeable by Exitar is laughable.The power of Exitar is just VASTLY beyond the power of all heroes on Earth combined.
Again, you have no sense of scale.
So can we assume Superdoom lifted most of the planet sized Brainiac mothership by himself, and Martian Manhunter was inconsequential?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Again, Rogue did nothing.She was there but she had no power to do anything.
That was shown on panel.
I guess that by your logic, if a quadriplegic assist a power-lifter to hold 500 lbs this is a shared feat too, right ?
You have no right to call me an idiot.
Everything you new thing you post is even worse than the former and shows your lack of reading comprehension.
She did NOTHING.
She was an insect from Exitar's perspective.
You're so idiotic that you think that Rogue holding one foot and Sentry holding the other is 100% a Sentry feat. 😂 😂
BTW, Hulk's potentially infinite dynamic power is dependent upon mental/emotional state. Banner>>>Rogue in potential for anger.
Originally posted by cdtm
So can we assume Superdoom lifted most of the planet sized Brainiac mothership by himself, and Martian Manhunter was inconsequential?
That's depending on the context.
If MMH attempt was totally useless then yes.
Unfortunately for that theory, they were shown to be even in that scene.
Superman himself had recognized that MMH was more powerful than him so there is that.
Sentry, on the other hand, is portrayed as a Cosmic Force.
Moreover he had the Death Seed that changed his persona at this time.
Originally posted by panthergod
You're so idiotic that you think that Rogue holding one foot and Sentry holding the other is 100% a Sentry feat. 😂 😂
It is SHOWN ON PANEL, Stark said that her power is not enough and that the Celestial is still sinking down.
BTW, Hulk's potentially infinite dynamic power is dependent upon mental/emotional state. Banner>>>Rogue in potential for anger.
Retarded logic at his finest...
Rogue had a power of the Hulk and all other heroes...
A simple addition can make you understand how a bullshitter you are...
Rogue >>>>>>>>>>>> Banner.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
It is SHOWN ON PANEL, Stark said that her power is not enough and that the Celestial is still sinking down.
Her power contributed to the feat. Sentry NEVER moved that celestial by himself.
Period.
Retarded logic at his finest...Rogue had a power of the Hulk and all other heroes...
A simple addition can make you understand how a bullshitter you are...
Rogue >>>>>>>>>>>> Banner.
Except not.. if you know anything about Hulk.
Hulk's power level is dependent upon his mental/emotional state, and is infinite in potential.
A Rogue who is mentally by multiple minds/emotional states is nowhere near as capable of as much anger as Banner.
There is zero reason to believe Rogue there was, say, WB Hulk level.
Originally posted by panthergod
Irrelevant.Her power contributed to the feat. Sentry NEVER moved that celestial by himself.
Period.
The scan state that her strength was IRRELEVANT to the feat.
Period.
I don't care about your opinion.
It's a fact.
Except not.. if you know anything about Hulk.Hulk's power level is dependent upon his mental/emotional state, and is infinite in potential.
*sigh*
Your logic:
Power of Hulk (Banner) > Rogue + Power of Hulk + Power of All Heroes
The logic of the story:
Rogue + Power of Hulk + Power of all other Heroes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power of Hulk (Banner)
Go and learn how to make an addition FFS:
A Rogue who is mentally by multiple minds/emotional states is nowhere near as capable of as much anger as Banner.
Nice ARGUMENTUM EX CULO.
Read above.
There is zero reason to believe Rogue there was, say, WB Hulk level.
No.
She is VASTLY MORE POWERFUL.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, MM and Superman didn't lift or stop the ship, they just pushed it away from Earth.
Yes.
Sentry didn't "lift" Exitar too.
He was pushing against Exitar whom was pushing down.
Rogue was completely irrelevant, she wasn't able to even slow down the guy on her own.
Sentry still pushed Exitar's dead body far away from Earth and Exitar was Earth-sized.