Originally posted by TrocitySnoke was beyond either. Luke however lost to both.
Snoke can't even beat a couple of hardly trained teenagers, Abeloth would use him like a toothpick to clean her teeth and then throw him in the garbage, like the director did with him in TLJ.There's a reason Snoke rhymes with joke, and it ain't cuz he's good at knock knocks.
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Originally posted by XanatosForeverOk, he still fought him and cut off his hand in esb that does not mean Vader was not trying to win the duel. We see he was capable of wounding and defeating Luke just as Luke wounded and defeated Vader in rotj. Luke did not kill his father either but only defended himself and returned to the duel after he goaded him by threatening his sister.
I admit it is conjecture, but not without clear circumstantial evidence to bolster the argument. In the moments before that encounter Vader delayed Luke's arrival to Palpatine for another bid to join him. That's a bit more than baseless as a defense.I can't help but find that amusing coming from you, quan.
Oh...the old smilies don't work anymore. That makes me sad.
Vader lost. He was well past his prime and Luke just entered his. There was a reason Sidious wanted Luke over Vader.
Originally posted by quanchi112he chose Luke because Vader was getting close to his level so he was going to murder Vader and get a younger apprentice, you know the whole dooku situation
Ok, he still fought him and cut off his hand in esb that does not mean Vader was not trying to win the duel. We see he was capable of wounding and defeating Luke just as Luke wounded and defeated Vader in rotj. Luke did not kill his father either but only defended himself and returned to the duel after he goaded him by threatening his sister.Vader lost. He was well past his prime and Luke just entered his. There was a reason Sidious wanted Luke over Vader.