Surfer vs Superman speed battle

Started by panthergod10 pages
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
That's wally.. who's faster than Barry..

Yet Barry was FTL time traveling in his first appearance... so yeah.

Barry is the source of the speed force.. which means anything Wally does is derived from Barry.

Originally posted by panthergod
Yet Barry was FTL time traveling in his first appearance... so yeah.

Barry is the source of the speed force.. which means anything Wally does is derived from Barry.

ROFL just recently DC confirmed Wally's faster than Barry, and always have been. any flash fan knows this, you don't even have to read alot of flash to know this.

Barry geenrates the speed force yes, but wally is BETTER at using it

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL just recently DC confirmed Wally's faster than Barry, and always have been. any flash fan knows this, you don't even have to read alot of flash to know this.

Barry geenrates the speed force yes, but wally is BETTER at using it


Irrelevant to my factual statement.

Flash was FTL and time traveling in his first appearance, FACT.

Barry is the source of the speed force, which means every feat Wally did was DERIVED from Barry's power. FACT.

..Ok lol?

Now, what does that have to do the tachyon?

Barry FOLLOWED the tachyon TRAIL

That does NOT mean he was moving at tachyon speed. He simply said he was following it. That's it

If a cheetah moved at top speed and I FOLLOWED it's TRAIL does that mean I was moving at 65mph? No.

The comic does not show Barry being side by side with the Tachyon in motion did it? No

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Flash also have 100 scans of him going into the speed force whenever he went FTL

He has as many scans of traveling in time at FTL speed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has as many scans of traveling in time at FTL speed.

Oh, yeah show it?

and I'll more of him CONSISTENTLY vanishing into the speed force at FTL

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
yes it does. what are you talking about?

Surfer can't travel to edge of the universe and has never done so. It's specifically stated in SS 10 in 2017.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Oh, yeah show it?

and I'll more of him CONSISTENTLY vanishing into the speed force at FTL

You first.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer can't travel to edge of the universe and has never done so. It's specifically stated in SS 10 in 2017.

I'll read that issue later, and but Hal or Supes can LMAOOO?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You first.

Sure

Flash v2 #111

as shown in Issue #113, even after the Savitar saga, Wally still disappears by going light speed or above

Even in issue #114, Wally explains to Don and Dawn Allen that the speed force exists just beyond light, and that the faster you go, the more energy source they become

Then in issue #115, Wally once again confirms to John Fox, that he entered the speed force and traveled through time after dealing with Savitar. Which as we've seen, happened by going beyond light

As a matter of fact, at the end of the Chain Lightning series, issue #150, in an attempt to save Barry, Wally takes Cobalt Blue and as seen and stated in panel, breaks lightspeed and starts disappearing into the speed force. You can see here, that he is trying to maintain himself on earth

Then there's Zero Hour #4 where he first broke lightspeed for the first time and still vanished into the speed force

Then there's Flash v2 #162 where he
Directly states he has to stay under light speed or he'll be sucked into the speed force

Then we had Flash going FTL and going into the speed force in #150

That's just a few examples.

your turn

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I'll read that issue later, and but Hal or Supes can LMAOOO?

Yes, because they already have. Multiple times.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Flash v2 #111

as shown in Issue #113, even after the Savitar saga, Wally still disappears by going light speed or above

Even in issue #114, Wally explains to Don and Dawn Allen that the speed force exists just beyond light, and that the faster you go, the more energy source they become

Then in issue #115, Wally once again confirms to John Fox, that he entered the speed force and traveled through time after dealing with Savitar. Which as we've seen, happened by going beyond light

As a matter of fact, at the end of the Chain Lightning series, issue #150, in an attempt to save Barry, Wally takes Cobalt Blue and as seen and stated in panel, breaks lightspeed and starts disappearing into the speed force. You can see here, that he is trying to maintain himself on earth

Then there's Zero Hour #4 where he first broke lightspeed for the first time and still vanished into the speed force

Then there's Flash v2 #162 where he
Directly states he has to stay under light speed or he'll be sucked into the speed force

Then we had Flash going FTL and going into the speed force in #150

That's just a few examples.

your turn

Copy pasting arguments from comicvine doesn't works kid.

Here you go though. Most comprehensive respect feat for Flash on internet.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=469707&highlight=title%3A%28wally%29+forumid%3A98

Originally posted by abhilegend
Copy pasting arguments from comicvine doesn't works kid.

LOL riiight. Try pasting into google, and see if it comes up on comicvine than. I accept your concession

Let me know when you post those speed feats from Wally

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, because they already have. Multiple times.

I bet it's probably another "theory" moment in SS 10 again

Heck, the very first time Wally traveled back in time, he had to run far beyond the speed of light.

No speed force merger shown.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heck, the very first time Wally traveled back in time, he had to run far beyond the speed of light.

No speed force merger shown.

Yes, I read that. Flash v2 #0

That particular scan is talking about what happened in Zero Hour #4

I can SHOW you multiple scans of Wally directly saying that he did in fact merge with the speedforce in (that) particular moment

There's TONS of scans, including guidebooks

and still waiting for the scans of Wally going "FTL" or above without vanishing into speed force consistently.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LOL riiight. Try pasting into google, and see if it comes up on comicvine than. I accept your concession

I've seen the exact same argument on comicvine.

Don't try to use it here.