Surfer vs Superman speed battle

Baz you don't read DC. Stop pretending as if any thing you say is valid.

hey if you're gonna address anything i said, do so. otherwise your opinions is irrelevant, stay out of this or get debunked again. your choice

Originally posted by leonidas
you took him off ignore for the bz didn't you...? sneer

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I know what she was doing.

Once again, going FTL (on their own) is what enables the time travel via speedforce

The treadmill however, does (Not) require FTL because it has never been stated or shown

Nowhere. Not one single comic or guidebook states FTL is needed to use the treadmill

Yes, it has. I already posted it for you.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and It's a cosmic treadmill that travels through time. You can't extrapolate any numbers from it unless the narrative actually STATES something.

The Cosmic Treadmill is travelling through time. Producing tachyons doesn't necessarily mean it's actually FTL.

Yes, it does since it is directly powered by the kinetic energy of the user.

Tachyon automaticall means FTL.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
hey if you're gonna address anything i said, do so. otherwise your opinions is irrelevant, stay out of this or get debunked again. your choice

Flash was inherently FTL since literally his first appearance. The cosmic treadmill gives control only.

You arent a DC reader and only see scans from battleboards. Nothing you say is relevant kid.

Flash also have 100 scans of him going into the speed force whenever he went FTL

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not as per the comic, he can't.

yes it does. what are you talking about?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123

The observable universe has over 100 billion galaxies where OA is in the center.

Let's say that OA is 1 million galaxies away. Let's say each galaxy is about 5,000 light years wide and the average distance between galaxies is 1 billion light years. All of these numbers are far lower than reality.

Let's say that Superman took about 10 minutes to cross this distance (he did it in a matter of moments).

Average speed = distance /time
=(1million × 5000 × 1 billion light years) / 10 minutes
= 500 quadrillion light-years per minute.
There are 3600×24×365=31,536,000 seconds in a year.
Therefore Superman traveled faster than
500 quadrillion × 31,536,000 = 1.57 ×10^25 times faster than light.

and again, I asked what speed feat are you refrencing the calc for Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, it does since it is directly powered by the kinetic energy of the user.

Tachyon automaticall means FTL.

Tachyons are moving at FTL, yes. It doesn't mean the actual time-travelling Treadmill is moving FTL if it's 'leaving a Tachyon trail'.

Lemme make it more clear.

I give a guy a big gun that fires some kind of weird, comic book energy. As it happens, when the gun shoots it produces Tachyons. Does that mean the gun is now travelling at FTL?

I have a weird comic book device that teleports people. When it operates, it produces Tachyons. Does that mean the teleportation device is now travelling at FTL?

I have a device that allows me to time travel. When I time travel, I leave a trail of Tachyons behind me through time. Does this mean I am travelling faster than light (I mean, I suppose it does given the weird relationship that light and time seem to have, but let's not get into that kind of stuff, it'll make me go back and read a bunch of books discussing said theories again, and I can't right now, I'm working)?

Now, if the Treadmill is shown moving at FTL in another feat, great! It's FTL. But that it leaves a Tachyon trail through time that Barry can follow? That, in itself, doesn't mean it's moving faster than light with regards to velocity.

As for the kinetic energy, 'powered by the Kinetic energy' doesn't mean FTL either. Except the actual rolly strip on it, which would need to be spinning at FTL if Barry is running at FTL, I suppose so again no you haven't proved anything. Keep trying

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Flash also have 100 scans of him going into the speed force whenever he went FTL

Flash was FTL since his first appearance, and was traveling through time since his first appearance.. period.

The fact that you know nothing about DC isn't my problem.

Originally posted by panthergod
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact I stated.

Flash was FTL since his first appearance, and was traveling through time since his first appearance.. period.

The fact that you know nothing about DC isn't my problem.

it absolutely does though, FTL was always his limit. Flash had always went FTL, and vanished into the speed force. that's consistent with his presentation, want me to post the 20-40 scans of it?

Yes. ill be waiting.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
it absolutely does though, FTL was always his limit. Flash had always went FTL, and vanished into the speed force. that's consistent with his presentation, want me to post the 20-40 scans of it?

Give one scan from Showcase#4, in order for any of your ignorance to be relevant.

Sure, I'll give one example.

Flash v2 #136 he ends up vanishing into the speed force by going past lightspeed after trying not to

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Sure, I'll give one example.

Flash v2 #136 he ends up vanishing into the speed force by going past lightspeed after trying not to

So You have nothing, then.

Because that is an entirely different character.

😂

You didn't even know that, did you?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and again, I asked what speed feat are you refrencing the calc for Superman?

The one where he flew to OA under his own power within a few minutes.

Originally posted by panthergod
So You have nothing, then.

Because that is an entirely different character.

😂

You didn't even know that, did you?

That's wally.. who's faster than Barry..

Originally posted by h1a8
The one where he flew to OA under his own power within a few minutes.

post it