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Originally posted by roughrider
Much as I want to applaud this restaurant manager, if I'm not in favour of a homophobic baker in Colorado refusing service then I can't really support this either.

Why do you want to applaud the restaurant manager? And why do you think the baker is homophobic? He refused to make Halloween cakes, lewd bachelor party cakes, divorce cakes, and even said that he would refuse to make a cake that disparages people who identify as LGBT? Why do you think someone who doesn't accept one's lifestyle automatically makes them a homophobe or bigot?

Originally posted by Robtard
"muh religion" as the reason.

And atheists should have the same rights to discriminate with whom they do business with as much as a religious person does. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with freedom of association (or freedom not to associate by extension).

People should really stop using religion as a shield for their bigotry. You don't accept people who are gay, just say you don't. The "I don't hate gay people, but the bible ..." is such a cop-out.

Did you read his post? Looks like the baker is pretty consistent across the board, and not only singling out gay marriage.

Someone can say I don't like black people and black cats and black shoes and black phone cases etc. Does that mean they're not bigoted because they're consistent? Exactly.

Originally posted by Robtard
People should really stop using religion as a shield for their bigotry. You don't accept people who are gay, just say you don't. The "I don't hate gay people, but the bible ..." is such a cop-out.

Why do you think it automatically means someone hates gays? Someone not agreeing with your lifestyle doesn't equate to them hating you.

Originally posted by Playmaker
Why do you think it automatically means someone hates gays? Someone not agreeing with your lifestyle doesn't equate to them hating you.

I don't even think gay sex is wrong, but there's a difference between thinking gay sex and gay marriage are wrong and thinking you're an inferior being if you're gay.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone can say I don't like black people and black cats and black shoes and black phone cases etc. Does that mean they're not bigoted because they're consistent? Exactly.

If this is KMC's top-rated member, then this forum really is a shithole.

9 out of 10 forum members agree, reading three Robtard posts a day, twice after eating, will help in the fight against plaque, cavities and the gum disease known as gingivitis.

Originally posted by BackFire
9 out of 10 forum members agree, reading three Robtard posts a day, twice after eating, will help in the fight against plaque, cavities and the gum disease known as gingivitis.

What did gingivitis ever due to you? Bigot. #GingivitisLivesMatter

Originally posted by Emperordmb
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I don't even think gay sex is wrong, but there's a difference between thinking gay sex and gay marriage are wrong and thinking you're an inferior being if you're gay.

Or, to put it in another way, if all other attributes of two given individuals are completely equal, but one of them is gay, then someone with the point of view listed above would view the gay individual as being strictly inferior to the straight one.

You're thinking of this as an individual, which is good. Only the most deranged of people are absolute collectivists.

Your mistake seems to be in thinking that all bigots 100% hate/think inferior all x (in this instance gay people). In reality, a bigot can easily find examples of people in the category he has an aversion to as being respectable. Abraham Lincoln certainly believed in the general inferiority of blacks under whites, but still deeply respected Frederick Douglas, for example, and I'd imagine did not think him in particular inferior to most white men. Quite the opposite I'd expect.

But regardless, even if someone who disapproves of gay sex and marriage does not necessarily find any given gay man inferior, I'd certainly say they are far more likely to find them so. Get what I'm saying?

Originally posted by BackFire
9 out of 10 forum members agree, reading three Robtard posts a day, twice after eating, will help in the fight against plaque, cavities and the gum disease known as gingivitis.

Are you racist against Black Mold!?

Racist!

see what I mean...

Its Ok to STD Strangers in Califunny now.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If you believe that gay sex and marriage are wrong in the eyes of God and that by practicing them that God holds these people in less esteem, then you believe those people are inferior, generally speaking.

Or, to put it in another way, if all other attributes of two given individuals are completely equal, but one of them is gay, then someone with the point of view listed above would view the gay individual as being strictly inferior to the straight one.

You're thinking of this as an individual, which is good. Only the most deranged of people are absolute collectivists.

Your mistake seems to be in thinking that all bigots 100% hate/think inferior all x (in this instance gay people). In reality, a bigot can easily find examples of people in the category he has an aversion to as being respectable. Abraham Lincoln certainly believed in the general inferiority of blacks under whites, but still deeply respected Frederick Douglas, for example, and I'd imagine did not think him in particular inferior to most white men. Quite the opposite I'd expect.

But regardless, even if someone who disapproves of gay sex and marriage does not necessarily find any given gay man inferior, I'd certainly say they are far more likely to find them so. Get what I'm saying?

Do observant, Orthodox Jews not believe in exceptionalism of "theirs"?

Religion and equity can easily be at odds, considering we're talking about competing "tribes" who's mission is to convert/dominate a social landscape, to promote social cohesion through a "shared experience".

I see your point, though. You can argue Catholics see women as inferior, by what scripture says about the role of women in a household.

At that point, we're no longer arguing about individual bigotry, though, imo, but against the virtues of an entire religion.

Which is fine, but not a debate I'm interested in anymore. I'd rather just assume most followers a religion are generally good people at heart, secretly disapprove of the parts I don't like, yet respect the fact they personally have hurt no one, and that the institution they follow must work for the and theirs.

And that last part is the most important thing: A religion that doesn't result in social cohesion is a bad religion. If the followers are happy with it and aren't hurting anyone (They lost the gay marriage battle, so no harm in their beliefs there), let them be happy with it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If you believe that gay sex and marriage are wrong in the eyes of God and that by practicing them that God holds these people in less esteem, then you believe those people are inferior, generally speaking.

That's horrible logic. Christians and Jews believe lots of things are sin. That doesn't mean you hold these people in less esteem and believe them to be inferior. It's complete asinine to assume something like that.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

[QUOTE=16641795]Originally posted by Playmaker
Why do you think it automatically means someone hates gays? Someone not agreeing with your lifestyle doesn't equate to them hating you.

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I don't even think gay sex is wrong, but there's a difference between thinking gay sex and gay marriage are wrong and thinking you're an inferior being if you're gay. [/QUOTE]

Implicit in thinking you are entitled to an opinion about the lifestyle of another is that you think your lifestyle is superior.

Why else share your disapproval of something that does not involve you, does not affect you, is none of your business; and whom, the object of your disapproval, not only did not ask for your opinion, but does not care what you think?

What makes [royal] you think you have a right to opine about how another person lives their life, or that anyone gives a flying **** what you think about anything?

A misplaced sense of superiority. As if you are in position to judge the lifestyles of others.

Sad thing is the LGBQTXYZ Community continually ACTS like it Has to Make their Lifestyle EVERYONE'S Business. I don't recall ever seeing a Heterosexual Pride Parade in the U.S.

That and now it seems Homosexuals get EXTRA Protections that everyone else DOES NOT now.

So yeah...

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Sad thing is the LGBQTXYZ Community continually ACTS like it Has to Make their Lifestyle EVERYONE'S Business. I don't recall ever seeing a Heterosexual Pride Parade in the U.S.

That and now it seems Homosexuals get EXTRA Protections that everyone else DOES NOT now.

So yeah... [/B]

I’ll respond to you Adam after I eat breakfast and clean the second hole in my ass.