Originally posted by Baziemarc123
smh im on mobile. chillyes, by raw power. they're using PHYSICAL force in that fight sequence to beat down superman.
Not sure why being on your phone makes you ignore Hercules, but OK.
IM in his old armour was able to stalemate Thor, so....
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And let's not forget about Tony in his Model 1 Mark III armor being perfectly capable of stalemating Classic Thor in the arm-wrestling competition...
Originally posted by -Pr-
No you ****ing couldn't. Don't go full retard, dude. Seriously.
Dude I know i MIGHT SEEM like a marvel fanboy/troll to you but i'm not. I am 100% SERIOUS, I've ready tons of superman from his older stories, and I've read Iron Man. I mean HEY the Monica vs Superman BZ is JUST PROOF I can back the stuff I say.
there's a reason why debates exist. to debunk a popular notion, you might even be full of surprises. there's much much more things to learn, if you read alot of Iron Man, he isn't EXACTLY a slouch. he's even beaten Ulik who was giving thor trouble, and many high tiers before. and that was in one of his older models
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Dude I know i MIGHT SEEM like a marvel fanboy/troll to you but i'm not. I am 100% SERIOUS, I've ready tons of superman from his older stories, and I've read Iron Man. I mean HEY the Monica vs Superman BZ is JUST PROOF I can back the stuff I say.there's a reason why debates exist. to debunk a popular notion, you might even be full of surprises. there's much much more things to learn, if you read alot of Iron Man, he isn't EXACTLY a slouch. he's even beaten Ulik who was giving thor trouble, and many high tiers before. and that was in one of his older models
And Superman has beaten people far above him. He's consistently been one of the top heralds, if not the top one, for decades now. Putting someone like Iron Man up against him is not going to end well for Tony.
And whether you're a fanboy or not doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what Busiek said.
Your interpretation of what Busiek said isn't exactly bulletproof either, to be fair.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Rage asked for it.
And? That's what PMs are for.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Buseik is a fanboy, what writers say is irrelevant relative to what's shown directly on panel.you could argue She Hulk, or Iron Man could one-shot Superman if we base their feats on consistency.
Unlike you who is totally not a fanboy?
You seem to regress mentally by each post. Now Superman is beneath She-Hulk and Iron Man to the point they can oneshot him?
I guess a few threads later you'll claim Aunt May would oneshot Superman based on consistent feats?
Are you here just to troll?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor and several avengers combined were less than Superman in raw power. Explicitly stated.
You obviously haven't read the comic, so I'll ENLIGHTEN YOu
For starters, , that's not how it went in the actual comics. Thor and Superman fight it out, Superman BARELY beats him, but is so worn out that a dogpile from Hercules and a group of lesser Avengers takes him flat-out of the fight, like immediately.
And this.
'Just barely.'
I can't find the page right after the first (crappy, sorry) scan, where Clark gets mobbed and taken right out.
Also, in the end of the thing, that's not how it goes. Thor is getting mobbed, and throws his hammer TO Superman, who then uses it to break through. CONFIRMING That Mjolnir>Superman:
Stop twisting context like you usually do LMAO
Originally posted by -Pr-Your interpretation of what Busiek said isn't exactly bulletproof either, to be fair.
And? That's what PMs are for.
I'll stop but I'm not arguing JLA/Avengers as a proof that Superman is more powerful than Thor. Rage asked for it hence I posted the proof.
Strange that I'm the one reprimanded for it.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
You obviously haven't read the comic, so I'll ENLIGHTEN YOuFor starters, , that's not how it went in the actual comics. Thor and Superman fight it out, Superman BARELY beats him, but is so worn out that a dogpile from Hercules and a group of lesser Avengers takes him flat-out of the fight, like immediately.
And this.
'Just barely.'
I can't find the page right after the first (crappy, sorry) scan, where Clark gets mobbed and taken right out.
Also, in the end of the thing, that's not how it goes. Thor is getting mobbed, and throws his hammer TO Superman, who then uses it to break through. CONFIRMING That Mjolnir>Superman:
Stop twisting context like you usually do LMAO
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what Busiek said.