In rebirth, it looks slike an average Darkstar is stronger than a high herald. I'm not sure if that level of power will continue. I doubt it but it's possible.
As of now, if we are excluding the major marvel players (Cosmic level beings like FR), I'd say the Darkstar should win.
I'm sure by GL 50, my opinion will change.
Originally posted by Zack M
John Stewart and the gang are gathering up Kryptonians, New Gods, sinestro corps, and a onslaught level telepath to take on the Darkstars. Not to mention the entire GLC.
So far they gathered
1 Telepath (Hector)
1 Kryptonian (Zod)
1 New God (Orion)
As far as GL, there are far too few of them. They haven’t reached their maximum number.
Not reallySo far they gathered
1 Telepath (Hector)
1 Kryptonian (Zod)
1 New God (Orion)As far as GL, there are far too few of them. They haven’t reached their maximum number.
I thought Zod's family is helping out. Orion is there, which is huge, and there could be more help, once Highfather finds out they left.
And Hector is a pretty powerful telepath.
Originally posted by Zack M
I thought Zod's family is helping out. Orion is there, which is huge, and there could be more help, once Highfather finds out they left.And Hector is a pretty powerful telepath.
I doubt Zod is bringing anyone but himself. Perhaps eradicator
There is no way high father is coming. As he explained, it’s mot his issue. I doubt he will do anything but come in at the end to scold
Orion
Hector is strong but Marvel earth can easily replicate that level of TP.
So yeah if this is it takes for Darkstars to lose, Marvel earth can probably do the same.
If they suffer from Decapitated Army syndrome:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DecapitatedArmy
Then the X-Men alone can do it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If they suffer from Decapitated Army syndrome:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DecapitatedArmyThen the X-Men alone can do it.
You're quite correct. All they needed was a telepath, and Marvel is filled with them. Darkstars may have a chance but I'd give the nod to Marvel Earth more often than not.
Originally posted by Stoic
You're quite correct. All they needed was a telepath, and Marvel is filled with them. Darkstars may have a chance but I'd give the nod to Marvel Earth more often than not.
They'd need an Onslaught level telepath to do it. Hector was dubbed Onslaught level before he was the God Brain. Or Marvel TP's can combine their might and take down the Controllers. However, that's easier said than done, since this isn't one-sided prep.
Since when? Hector did all of what he did with ease. The Darkstars are simply weak to TP, or were during that arc. Emma, or Rachel would likely be enough, but if not, they'd have plenty more since this is Marvel Earth. Let's face it, the Darkstars turned out to be a bit underwhelming when it came down to resisting the mind whammy.
Marvel wins.
Originally posted by Stoic
Since when? Hector did all of what he did with ease. The Darkstars are simply weak to TP, or were during that arc. Emma, or Rachel would likely be enough, but if not, they'd have plenty more since this is Marvel Earth. Let's face it, the Darkstars turned out to be a bit underwhelming when it came down to resisting the mind whammy.Marvel wins.
Since the 12 storyline. During that time when brainiac powered up 12 individuals, Hector was omega level.
Now fast forward to this year, he's even more powerful. Which is why he easily over rid the minds of 7 controllers. Uber.
So Hector 'God Brain' Hammond mindphucks the Controllers, and that makes the Darkstars "weak to TP" by proxy..? Jesus.
Hector Hammond. Same guy who can effortlessly toy with Orion's mind, despite him having a MotherBox on his person. Same guy who was implied to be able to easily TP-kill EVERY evildoer in the universe just to please Hal. Same guy who was implied to be more powerful than telepaths like Psycho Pirate, Maxwell Lord, and Psimon.
Sorry, but getting TP'd by him(of all people) is hardly a poor showing, lol.
Originally posted by Galan007
So Hector 'God Brain' Hammond mindphucks the Controllers, and that makes the Darkstars "weak to TP" by proxy..? Jesus.Hector Hammond. Same guy who can effortlessly toy with Orion's mind, despite him having a MotherBox on his person. Same guy who was implied to be able to easily TP-kill EVERY evildoer in the universe just to please Hal. Same guy who was implied to be more powerful than telepaths like Psycho Pirate, Maxwell Lord, and Psimon.
Sorry, but getting TP'd by him(of all people) is hardly a poor showing, lol.
What level do you think Hammond is operating at, currently? Telepathic wise?
Originally posted by SupermutantHal and the GLC #48:
What issue was this?
And remember, it was previously established that MotherBox can render a telepathic immunity of sorts:
And as you can see above, Orion used the MB to expel Hammond's essence from Superman, and also set up mental safeguards in Superman's mind to prevent it from being breached again.
However, those safeguards didn't stop Hammond(post-God Brain amp) from easily overtaking Superman's mind:
*That goes to show how much more powerful Hector became after the amp. Not even the telepathic resistance gleaned from a MotherBox can stand up to him.