Darkstars Vs Marvel Earth

Started by Stoic4 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Hal and the GLC #48:

And remember, it was previously established that MotherBox can render a telepathic immunity of sorts:

And as you can see above, Orion used the MB to expel Hammond's essence from Superman, and also set up mental safeguards in Superman's mind to prevent it from being breached again.

However, those safeguards didn't stop Hammond(post-God Brain amp) from easily overtaking Superman's mind:

*That goes to show how much more powerful Hector became after the amp. Not even the telepathic resistance gleaned from a MotherBox can stand up to him.

Who said that the Controller's had the same amount of resistance as Orion with the MB? You seem to be giving away prizes to characters that don't deserve them. Marvel has a ton of telepaths as I mentioned earlier, and since the Darkstars seem to have this as a chink in their armor Marvel Earth should be able to exploit it as well.

Controllers have the toughest minds in the universe.

Yeah the DC Universe maybe, but Marvel Earth has some pretty insane telepaths like the Shadow King, and several others that could attack them in sync. But maybe you're not up to considering the feats that these guys have stacked up. Legion is on Earth as well.

Hypno Hustler is also on Marvel Earth

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah the DC Universe maybe, but Marvel Earth has some pretty insane telepaths like the Shadow King, and several others that could attack them in sync. But maybe you're not up to considering the feats that these guys have stacked up. Legion is on Earth as well.

I'm not saying Marvel earth can't win, but Hector is more powerful than your average MU TP. I doubt even SK can stop him.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Hypno Hustler is also on Marvel Earth

Check it out, if Marvel Earth can't win that's all cool and dandy for me, but I think that the telepaths on that Earth should get a little acknowledgement, since this was what allowed the Lanterns, Orion, Zod, and the gang to fight them on equal footing. That's all I'm saying.

Those three had problems, though. And DC earth has a lot of uber Telepaths that you're not considering.

Originally posted by Stoic
Who said that the Controller's had the same amount of resistance as Orion with the MB? You seem to be giving away prizes to characters that don't deserve them. Marvel has a ton of telepaths as I mentioned earlier, and since the Darkstars seem to have this as a chink in their armor Marvel Earth should be able to exploit it as well.
It seems like you have absolutely no clue what casually mindphucking SEVEN Controllers simultaneously, or casually overpowering the TP resistance of a MotherBox, actually means.

It's almost like you don't give a shit how powerful Hammond is, and just want to call the Darkstars "weak to TP" so you can give Marvel's telepaths the win.

Lol, interesting...

Hard to see if Orion was actually using the MB, normally there would be a ping. I think the writers may have forgotten about the MB and what it can do in that instance. Wouldn't be the first time for instance when Maxima used TP on Orion, he was supposed to have a MB in his possession. Although there was no evidence shown that the MB was used to try and stop TP.

Not that Hammond would need that feat as he has others more uber like the Controllers.

Originally posted by Galan007
So Hector 'God Brain' Hammond mindphucks the Controllers, and that makes the Darkstars "weak to TP" by proxy..? Jesus.

Hector Hammond. Same guy who can effortlessly toy with Orion's mind, despite him having a MotherBox on his person. Same guy who was implied to be able to easily TP-kill EVERY evildoer in the universe just to please Hal. Same guy who was implied to be more powerful than telepaths like Psycho Pirate, Maxwell Lord, and Psimon.

Sorry, but getting TP'd by him(of all people) is hardly a poor showing, lol.


Especially after just one guardian did this TP wise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A gargantuan feat from the preview of Green Lanterns 50. A random Guardian spreads his consciousness across all that is, was and will be across the cosmos.

Who is him, Abhi? What is the Guardian scared of?

Not revealed yet.

Originally posted by Zack M
Who is him, Abhi? What is the Guardian scared of?

Abhi breaks the 4th wall and makes his first appearance in DC.

Originally posted by Galan007
It seems like you have absolutely no clue what casually mindphucking SEVEN Controllers simultaneously, or casually overpowering the TP resistance of a MotherBox, actually means.

It's almost like you don't give a shit how powerful Hammond is, and just want to call the Darkstars "weak to TP" so you can give Marvel's telepaths the win.

Lol, interesting...

Is that what I just said? Best to go back and understand what I said instead of assuming what I did not say. Understand? Good.

I'm not quite sure what is being argued here. Are people saying Hector > every telepath on Marvel Earth combined?

Originally posted by Stoic
Is that what I just said? Best to go back and understand what I said instead of assuming what I did not say. Understand? Good.
I said that's how it "seems"... Because that IS how it seems.

You seem to have NO comprehension of the DC characters here. That much is evident by you saying they are "weak to TP" solely because Hector Hammond incapacitated the Controllers, lol.

Understand? Good. 👆

Originally posted by StyleTime
I'm not quite sure what is being argued here. Are people saying Hector > every telepath on Marvel Earth combined?
No.

What is being discussed here is that Hector 'God Brain' Hammond mindphucking the Controllers does NOT make the Darkstars "weak to TP" by proxy. Moreover, the Controllers work from a single remote location -- they do not travel with the the swarm of Darkstars that would be invading Marvel earth.

...So unless Marvel earth knew where the Controllers were being held, TP'ing them is a non-factor anyway.

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

What is being discussed here is that Hector 'God Brain' Hammond mindphucking the Controllers does NOT make the Darkstars "weak to TP" by proxy. Moreover, the Controllers work from a single remote location -- they do not travel with the the swarm of Darkstars that would be invading Marvel earth.

...So unless Marvel earth knew where the Controllers were being held, TP'ing them is a non-factor anyway.

Terms of combat? Okay. Marvel Earth is being invaded? Okay. Marvel Earth has it's own telepaths along with every other creature under Skyfather that knows this group is attacking, which includes these Controllers? Okay. So this is what I'm imagining is happening in this forum battle. Marvel has many telepaths which includes Legion right? So do we give them the benefit of possibly turning the tide like Hector did all by himself, or do the Darkstars annihilate Marvel Earth? Now let's sidestep the semantics and say whether or not Marvel can or can't. I don't need the rundown. I'm aware of it.

Again, the purpose of the Controllers is using their collective TP to mentally link the Darkstars. This enables the Darkstars to better use abilities like tactile teleportation(which makes them untouchable to even beings with Zod's stats.)

However, the Controllers do this from a single off-site location, many many lightyears away from the Darkstar swarm. IOW, the Controllers are NOT part of the physical invasion... So unless Marvel earth knew how/where to find the Controllers, TP is a non-factor anyway.

Moreover, I certainly wouldn't say it's 'standard knowledge' that the Controllers are used in such a capacity either. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, the purpose of the Controllers is using their collective TP to mentally link the Darkstars. This enables the Darkstars to better use abilities like tactile teleportation(which makes them untouchable to even beings with Zod's stats.)

However, the Controllers do this from a single off-site location, many many lightyears away from the Darkstar swarm. IOW, the Controllers are NOT part of the physical invasion... So unless Marvel earth knew how/where to find the Controllers, TP is a non-factor anyway.

Moreover, I certainly wouldn't say it's 'standard knowledge' that the Controllers are used in such a capacity either. /shrug

I know tho. I read the comics, but this is a forum battle, and in a forum, everyone is made aware of everything and everyone taking place in the battle. They also must adhere to forum regulation starting distances. I'm not doing this to be jerky. In all fairness Marvel Earth has an impressive array of telepaths. Mystics are also present. Go back to my previous posts and understand that this is why I'm bringing this up. If Marvel Earth is doomed, big deal. I'm cool with it, I just don't think a group like the Darkstars are more impressive than the Dark Celestial hoarde trying to destroy Marvel Earth at this present time.