Originally posted by carver9
You cant see a Flash beating Superman? I'll help you see it...
Are you this dense?!
Originally posted by carver9
You cant see a Flash beating Superman? I'll help you see it...
Are you this dense?!
Originally posted by leonidas
of course not--he felt horrible draining inertia--but that doesn't mean he couldn't have continued to drain them, and like i said, jay wasn't as good as some of these others. i think it's an ability that can be countered by....VERY few. without it, i can't see a flash beating superman in a fight. /shrug
As soon as his power returned, he was free from the speed steal.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. Inertia had lost his power and was using Velocity 9 to artificially power himself up.As soon as his power returned, he was free from the speed steal.
that doesn't really help your case though. extenuating circumstances clearly freed him--though i don't know the whole story. where's that from?
besides, he was frozen for a long time and it would be easy enough to simply repeat. there is no logical counter to the speed steal for superman. he uses kinetic energy. flash steals it. even if he slowed him to half, that would make the speed difference great enough that he couldn't counter a vibratory attack for example, maybe into the brain to ko him, or into the heart. just not seeing it happening for superman.
and carver--i wish there were like some SUPER ignore button. great proof. 👆 ffs
Originally posted by SquallX
My point is, yes, Barry and Wally are indeed faster than Kal. But, this is not a race, but a fight.
Yep.
Imo Superman can one-shot every speedster without problem.
At worse he can slow them down by surrounding the area with freeze breath. That will remove the friction on the ground too.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Yep.Imo Superman can one-shot every speedster without problem.
At worse he can slow them down by surrounding the area with freeze breath. That will remove the friction on the ground too.
Freeze breath would only works for such a short term one span, and to Barry and Wally that could equate a life time.
At he same time, since again this is a fight, Kal has more versatility to works with.
His best one is his flight. If Kal goes in the stratosphere and refuses to come down, his winning against any of the Flashes goes way up. While upthere, he’s fast enough to reign down high level of galestorms mix’s in with ice and flames to get them off their games and provides openings for him.
And that’s just one strategy he could use.
Flying doesnt help...
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-37223b9819038201991950e45c3699aa-c
Originally posted by leonidas
that doesn't really help your case though. extenuating circumstances clearly freed him--though i don't know the whole story. where's that from?
Final Crisis Rogues Revenge.
Extenuating circumstances which just gave him his powers back.
besides, he was frozen for a long time and it would be easy enough to simply repeat. there is no logical counter to the speed steal for superman. he uses kinetic energy. flash steals it. even if he slowed him to half, that would make the speed difference great enough that he couldn't counter a vibratory attack for example, maybe into the brain to ko him, or into the heart. just not seeing it happening for superman.
Superman has shrugged off such attacks before.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/fullchronosuspension.jpg
Yes, there is counters. Superman generates his own speed, Flash can't strip it totally from him.
and carver--i wish there were like some SUPER ignore button. great proof. 👆 ffs
I know right.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Final Crisis Rogues Revenge.Extenuating circumstances which just gave him his powers back.
Superman has shrugged off such attacks before.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/fullchronosuspension.jpg
Yes, there is counters. Superman generates his own speed, Flash can't strip it totally from him.
I know right.
when have you ever seen it either countered or fail? because i've seen neither, ever, except from another flash maybe....
Originally posted by carver9
Flying doesnt help...https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-37223b9819038201991950e45c3699aa-c
And no way Carter could have left something out intentionally or unintentionally, because he's read it no less than 4 times and is the poster boy for honesty and integrity.
