Why is prostitution illegal?

I don't even think Christianity is THE thing keeping it illegal anymore. It's def why it was outlawed in the first place and undoubtedly still plays a role in the form of an excuse, but I doubt it's the true reason anymore. Sex is the 2nd biggest motivator for men behind hunger. If sex were more readily available, men wouldn't have to work as hard to buy things to impress women to have sex. And if prostitution were legal more women would do it which would lower the price of prostitution so socially inept guys would need even less money to pay for them to have sex. The government wants to keep people working, the economy wants to keep people buying, and the vast majority of women want to maintain their dominance in social situations... I think these are the real reasons it's illegal nowadays.

Originally posted by darthgoober
See I disagree, I don't think they're anyone else who's occupation is dependent upon their appearance. I don't think that choosing not to do a lot of physically taxing labor is inherently lazy... I mean most people's motto is "work smarter not harder".

Hell as you say, you'd rather **** a fat chick than work a shift for less money. That doesn't mean that you're lazy. Lazy people do as little as possible but some hookers go above and beyond what's strictly required to make the rent and such.

I see the profession as having a great POTENTIAL for laziness, just as other jobs don't require a large amount of physical labor does(guys like computer programmers spend their whole work day sitting on their ass and expend far less physical energy than many hookers), but I don't see the profession itself as being inherently lazy.

If I quit my job to sodomize fat chicks, I would be.

How many whores quit their dayjob because it was too hard and just started sleeping with dudes for money? They could have done anything in the world but they chose hooking because it was the easiest way to make money. They didn't have to go to school to learn how to properly take a dick up the ass. They didn't have to step on the heads of all the midgets to get to the top of hooking. They didn't have to convince a bunch of fickle buyers to try their pussy out for a spin ("I don't know, my last hooker had a spare tire and had a huge trunk, I'll think about it and ask my wife"). All they had to do was do what everyone else does on a daily or weekly basis. And if they were pretty, they could make more. If they got really good at sucking dick, they could make more. It's not a hooker eat hooker world out there, they just have to be willing to get a sometimes floppy dick thrown in their face. No reading or writing required. No thought required. No actual real life skills are needed besides taking a mean dick.

Computer programmers also have to go to school and spend money and effort to get where they want to be. Then they have to do a bunch of complex shit far beyond a normal peons mind for hours a day on a deadline. A hooker has to one day decide she has to have sex for money and maybe advertise it a couple places. Imagine if everyone on Tinder got paid for it and never actually worked.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
The hookers who go above and beyond are apparently comparable to part time girlfriends though... those girlfriends also have real jobs (hopefully).

If I quit my job to sodomize fat chicks, I would be.

How many whores quit their dayjob because it was too hard and just started sleeping with dudes for money? They could have done anything in the world but they chose hooking because it was the easiest way to make money. They didn't have to go to school to learn how to properly take a dick up the ass. They didn't have to step on the heads of all the midgets to get to the top of hooking. They didn't have to convince a bunch of fickle buyers to try their pussy out for a spin ("I don't know, my last hooker had a spare tire and had a huge trunk, I'll think about it and ask my wife"). All they had to do was do what everyone else does on a daily or weekly basis. And if they were pretty, they could make more. If they got really good at sucking dick, they could make more. It's not a hooker eat hooker world out there, they just have to be willing to get a sometimes floppy dick thrown in their face. No reading or writing required. No thought required. No actual real life skills are needed besides taking a mean dick.

Computer programmers also have to go to school and spend money and effort to get where they want to be. Then they have to do a bunch of complex shit far beyond a normal peons mind for hours a day on a deadline. A hooker has to one day decide she has to have sex for money and maybe advertise it a couple places. Imagine if everyone on Tinder got paid for it and never actually worked.

Yeah but I suspect if the job was actually available as steady work I suspect you WOULD(and tbf, I guarantee I would), but it's not so you don't. My point is that laziness is more of a mental trait representative of a person's lack of drive and/or work ethic than it is a physical manifestation of the actions that are taken.

Yeah and models and movie stars choose that work over deep sea crab fishing or construction work for the same reason... It's an easier job for more money.

Going to school is still sitting around all day, as is spending money. You already discounted mental stress/effort as a counter to laziness, so why do guys like computer geeks and accountants get a free pass?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I wouldn't say they are on average. Most girlfriends are pickier than hookers in the bedroom. Good hookers are comparable to GREAT girlfriends lol

Yeah but I suspect if the job was actually available as steady work I suspect you WOULD(and tbf, I guarantee I would), but it's not so you don't. My point is that laziness is more of a mental trait representative of a person's lack of drive and/or work ethic than it is a physical manifestation of the actions that are taken.

Yeah and models and movie stars choose that work over deep sea crab fishing or construction work for the same reason... It's an easier job for more money.

Going to school is still sitting around all day, as is spending money. You already discounted mental stress/effort as a counter to laziness, so why do guys like computer geeks and accountants get a free pass?

I work 12 to 15 hours a day of hard physical labor. You can't exactly use me as an example of something else I'd rather do. I'd rather be flipping burgers and making the same amount of money. ****ing rights I'd pork a couple fatties over my job. But what am I actually doing if I was a hooker? Popping viagras and thrusting fatties. That's it. Of course stress would come with the job, but does that actually change what I'm doing. Woe is me I made 300 bucks off an hour with a fatty who hasn't washed in a while. I have 3 more appointments today. I'm such a hard worker.

Also their drive and work ethic made them end up as a hooker. That's my whole point. Everything else looked too hard, and they gravitated towards hooking instead.

I didn't discount mental stress or effort. I discounted the mental stess of taking a dick they didn't want to take but still consented to it.
Because I don't think having sex is in anyway comparable to the stress that comes with an actual job. Sure it can **** you up mentally, but just because you're stressed, that doesn't mean you're doing much.
As for mental effort... I don't think that's applicable to hookers.

You're acting like hookers have to do this or that and can't change their minds midway through as well. There's no ****ing way a hooker would take a nine inch dong up the tailpipe for an hour if she couldn't handle it. You're confusing hookers for sex slaves I think.
When Backpage was still around every other hooker would outright say "No blacks or muslims" as well as a list of what they'd do. A hooker isn't going to sit there and let you rip her ass in twix. They're not locked into an unbreakable contract. If I jammed both my hands in her rectum and tried to open it to put my head in she'd probably tell me to cut the shenanigans.

An actual guy at my actual job had an actual mental breakdown due to the actual stress of the job. I doubt many hookers can say the same tbh.

Being a prostitute is not a hard job, and as Bran said in many cases can be very profitable. But I don't fault them for this. The demand for paid sex is such that they can charge such high prices for an hour of their time. And doing less work for more money is a no-brainer.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Alright. So great hookers just have to have sex better then. That doesn't exactly change the point. A hooker putting in work is comparable to what a happy girlfriend does who has a tight pussy game.
That's still not a great deal of effort.

I work 12 to 15 hours a day of hard physical labor. You can't exactly use me as an example of something else I'd rather do. I'd rather be flipping burgers and making the same amount of money. ****ing rights I'd pork a couple fatties over my job. But what am I actually doing if I was a hooker? Popping viagras and thrusting fatties. That's it. Of course stress would come with the job, but does that actually change what I'm doing. Woe is me I made 300 bucks off an hour with a fatty who hasn't washed in a while. I have 3 more appointments today. I'm such a hard worker.

Also their drive and work ethic made them end up as a hooker. That's my whole point. Everything else looked too hard, and they gravitated towards hooking instead.

I didn't discount mental stress or effort. I discounted the mental stess of taking a dick they didn't want to take but still consented to it.
Because I don't think having sex is in anyway comparable to the stress that comes with an actual job. Sure it can **** you up mentally, but just because you're stressed, that doesn't mean you're doing much.
As for mental effort... I don't think that's applicable to hookers.

You're acting like hookers have to do this or that and can't change their minds midway through as well. There's no ****ing way a hooker would take a nine inch dong up the tailpipe for an hour if she couldn't handle it. You're confusing hookers for sex slaves I think.
When Backpage was still around every other hooker would outright say "No blacks or muslims" as well as a list of what they'd do. A hooker isn't going to sit there and let you rip her ass in twix. They're not locked into an unbreakable contract. If I jammed both my hands in her rectum and tried to open it to put my head in she'd probably tell me to cut the shenanigans.

Nah see it's not NECESSARILY a great deal of effort, but it can be. Sex can be extremely physically taxing.

And popping viagra and having sex with fatties can require a lot of physical effort. And model's and movie stars drive and work ethic chose their profession instead of more difficult jobs too. You're assuming that the appeal to hooking is the lack of effort in getting the job rather than the money available for doing the job but I guarantee not hookers subscribe to your projected motivation.

Having good sex IS doing stuff... a lot of stuff in fact. I guarantee that a good hooker burns at least 50 times more calories than someone who sits at a desk all day. So there's a lot of physical exertion and mental stress... doesn't sound like an inherently lazy profession to me. Sure they could get a different job if they put more effort into other things, but the same can be said of most people. Engineers aren't lazy just because they're not nuclear physicists.

What you're saying applies to all jobs though. You can quit any job for which you lack a written contract, doesn't mean the job does require a lot of mental effort or come with a lot of mental stress.

Originally posted by NemeBro
An actual guy at my actual job had an actual mental breakdown due to the actual stress of the job. I doubt many hookers can say the same tbh.

Being a prostitute is not a hard job, and as Bran said in many cases can be very profitable. But I don't fault them for this. The demand for paid sex is such that they can charge such high prices for an hour of their time. And doing less work for more money is a no-brainer.

I think a big problem here is that people disregard prostitution because most people enjoy sex. But using that reasoning musicians, artists, athletes, or anyone else who enjoys their job should likewise be disregarded.

Originally posted by darthgoober
If you think there's any kind of lack of mental health issues among hookers that arise from their job I assure you that you're wrong.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I think a big problem here is that people disregard prostitution because most people enjoy sex. But using that reasoning musicians, artists, athletes, or anyone else who enjoys their job should likewise be disregarded.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Among street hookers sure, but I believe Bran made it clear that he wasn't talking about those. Am I wrong?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't have a problem with prostitution at all. I just don't view it as being nearly as stressful or hard work as hard physical labor or even working one of the more physically-demanding jobs at a retailer.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You really think that a 6-8 hour shift at a retail job at some place like K-Mart is more physically taxing than 2 or 3 hours of vigorous sex?

I'm not talking about being a punk ass cashier or whatever, I'm talking about loading forty bags of eighty pound concrete into a truck by hand, collecting carts under the hot sun in July or in near-freezing weather, collecting a few dozen twenty inch pavers from a hole in the ground, unloading trucks of 2,000+ boxes of often heavy freight on a two hour deadline, etc.

Yes, I would consider the people with those jobs as having more difficult ones than having great sex for a few hours.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm not talking about being a punk ass cashier or whatever, I'm talking about loading forty bags of eighty pound concrete into a truck by hand, collecting carts under the hot sun in July or in near-freezing weather, collecting a few dozen twenty inch pavers from a hole in the ground, unloading trucks of 2,000+ boxes of often heavy freight on a two hour deadline, etc.

Yes, I would consider the people with those jobs as having more difficult ones than having great sex for a few hours.

Also, in general hookers don't HAVE "great sex", they GIVE great sex... there's a subtle but distinct difference between those two things.

Real estate agents are in the top 5 most suicide prevalent professions in America. Playing victim-Olympics with jobs is a pointless endeavor if one lacks the empathy or first-hand experience with a profession to understand the tribulations that go with it.

Originally posted by cdtm
They regulate and tax the port industry. What's the difference, other then a name and setting?

Prostitution is clandestine in a way, pornography is not:

Originally posted by One Big Mob
To be taxed it'd seem to have to be at a brothel, or with some sort of receipt and contract. Otherwise the whores can just go around claiming they only took 2 dicks and pocket the 10 dick money they actually earned.

There is no way for the government to know who is having sex with whom in exchange for what at any given moment.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Is it your contention that anything other than back breaking labor constitutes an "easy job"?

Also, in general hookers don't HAVE "great sex", they GIVE great sex... there's a subtle but distinct difference between those two things.

I'm aware of that and it's why I don't have a problem with hookers at all. If a woman can make solid money doing what I perceive as a relatively easy job then good on her. 👆

As for your second point, that's fair enough, I understand the distinction and didn't mean to imply otherwise. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
To be honest a little bit. I'm currently doing quite a bit of what I just named, and while I don't mind right now since it keeps me strong and in great shape for someone who eats garbage like I do, it's hard for me to empathize with people working what to me seem to be much easier jobs, but I do know that psychologically we are conditioned to frame our priorities according to our current situations. It's why money doesn't buy happiness. You get used to the money and your priorities shift to make you stress over shit that seems trivial to someone without money.

I'm aware of that and it's why I don't have a problem with hookers at all. If a woman can make solid money doing what I perceive as a relatively easy job then good on her. 👆

As for your second point, that's fair enough, I understand the distinction and didn't mean to imply otherwise. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
An actual guy at my actual job had an actual mental breakdown due to the actual stress of the job. I doubt many hookers can say the same tbh.

Being a prostitute is not a hard job, and as Bran said in many cases can be very profitable. But I don't fault them for this. The demand for paid sex is such that they can charge such high prices for an hour of their time. And doing less work for more money is a no-brainer.

I'm just saying they're lazy is all. I would never want a world without hookers, but I'm not going to pretend they're doing such a hard job.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nah see it's not NECESSARILY a great deal of effort, but it can be. Sex can be extremely physically taxing.

And popping viagra and having sex with fatties can require a lot of physical effort. And model's and movie stars drive and work ethic chose their profession instead of more difficult jobs too. You're assuming that the appeal to hooking is the lack of effort in getting the job rather than the money available for doing the job but I guarantee not hookers subscribe to your projected motivation.

Having good sex IS doing stuff... a lot of stuff in fact. I guarantee that a good hooker burns at least 50 times more calories than someone who sits at a desk all day. So there's a lot of physical exertion and mental stress... doesn't sound like an inherently lazy profession to me. Sure they could get a different job if they put more effort into other things, but the same can be said of most people. Engineers aren't lazy just because they're not nuclear physicists.

What you're saying applies to all jobs though. You can quit any job for which you lack a written contract, doesn't mean the job does require a lot of mental effort or come with a lot of mental stress.

Eh. Maybe if I'm wrestling them. Plus guys have to do more during sex anyway and burn more calories which still isn't much. A good hooker might burn 500 extra calories a day if she's lucky. That's not a lot, but it sure is for the worthless amount of calories sex burns.

Getting into modelling and movies is not very easy. You can become a hooker today and make money. Good luck getting into any sort of runway show or movie within five years. Not to mention they have schools that cost real money for both. People's whole lives have been destroyed trying to break into acting and failing. You wasted a lot of money and got nowhere. Imagine a Hooker having to go to hooking school and spends tens of thousands of dollars while having to do better than all the other hooker students and she just never gets her big break after a period of 5-10 years. She made no money and worked too long of hours away from her family. Her husband left her because her drive of becoming a great hooker surpassed her time with her family. Poor hooker with her drive and determination.

The appeal to hooking is the money AND they're lazy. It's not exactly seperate. You're already a whore and you just want to sit around doing coke all day, ever thought of hooking? Now you like meth and hooking and you pushed everyone out of your life.

The thing with these comparisons is that you're contrasting it with jobs that require skills vs a job that requires nothing. Not even work. If a Jessica Alba hooker popped up that laid there like a dead fish, she would still make massive amounts of money. Not every hooker is going to be a great lay. And not every hooker is going to be treated like she's on Facial Abuse. A lot of the times the bare minimum is exactly what happens. You think a hooker is going to burn herself out getting plowed? She has a couple more clients to get through.

But that's not what I'm speaking of in the last part. I'm saying these hookers aren't getting treated like dirt more often than not. They're not enduring monster dicks up the ass for more than they can handle because they can and will cut you off the second they exit their comfort zone. They have stress from what they're comfortable with and what they allow. And they are perfectly comfortable with strange men inside them.

And a hooker quitting a client will only lead her to find another in the same day. A human being quitting a job will lead to a sometimes lengthy job search. A hooker quitting her job will lead her to the same. Congrats, life is normal again.

I again have no doubt they have mental stress, but it's from something they're comfortable with. They're not getting raped. They like having sex with strangers and making money. They have gotten used to it. The same way you got used to driving a car or something. Sure it's scary at first, but after a while it's second nature. And they have rules in place to keep them in that comfort zone. It's not all monster dicks and cheesy cocks. If they don't want something, it's not happening. And they get a small retainer for it without anything happening.
The boss isn't yelling at them while they try their hardest to jack that dick off. They just have to take a penis up the rectum from someone they have no attraction to. And the meth helps.

Also no mental effort. Trying to design a building that doesn't fall down is not the same as wondering how long until this guy ejaculates into my face.

How long have you been a pimp, do you think we should tax you as a business owner?