Can Thor replicate Superman's nuke feat?

Started by Robtard10 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Basically you said I'm (as a person) invalid.

He's peak human in the MCU. In the real world there are no peak humans.
The universe does not matter. Stop making up irrelevant rules

And?

No, Cap's superhuman because that's how he's portrayed and how he performs. Wrong again, top level athletes would be "peak human" in their perspective fields. eg Justin Gatlin is(or was) peak human when it comes to running. Usain Bolt is as well.

Universe's matter, no matter what you say. eg Adrien Veidt isn't superhuman compared to Dr. Manhattan, yet he clearly does what a normal human could not.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not referring to gaining ability due to magic.
It is understood that all humans from all fictional universes are the same.

And what if Cap is peak human and others are just lower?
How do you define peak human?
Isn't Fisk a peak human by definition?

Cite your source that "It is understood that all humans from all fictional universes are the same."

Originally posted by Robtard
And?

No, Cap's superhuman because that's how he's portrayed and how he performs. Wrong again, top level athletes would be "peak human" in their perspective fields. eg Justin Gatlin is(or was) peak human when it comes to running. Usain Bolt is as well.

Universe's matter, no matter what you say. eg Adrien Veidt isn't superhuman compared to Dr. Manhattan, yet he clearly does what a normal human could not.

Wrong! Peak humans don't exist. You are referring to athletic humans. We are arguing semantics again.
Peak human is the pinnacle of human perfection. The highest a human could possibly be. That limit isn't known yet.

I just gave you two examples of "peak humans" in their perspective fields of performance.

The limit is what is currently the known limit/has been documented, be in it running, jumping, lifting etc.

Cap's superhuman btw,

So h1 if Cap is peak human then whats Batman? An average human?

Whats Widow? An average woman?

Please stop with the semantics BS. Cap is leagues above peak human even in the MCU and DCEU, let alone the real world.

h1 ran away just after you posted.

Jeeze h1, stop being a dick. Cap is superhuman in every definition of the word. Just drop it. You know you're just being a troll at this point.

H1 is the worst troll on this site. I literally posted a clip stating BP is explicitly considered superhuman in his universe. We have multiple showings that make it painfully apparent that Super Soldiers and those who consume the heart-shaped herb are physical peers. The latest example being from IW itself. Notice the two at around the 0:40 mark casually outstripping everyone else but keeping pace with each other:

YouTube video

Seriously, Steve being superhuman isn't debatable. It's been confirmed via feats, via statements, via audio-commentaries from the people behind the films etc. Someone would have to blatantly ignore how the character was intended to be portrayed (based on multiple bits of onscreen and offscreen evidence) to argue that he is only "peak human" in his universe.

Originally posted by Robtard
I just gave you two examples of "peak humans" in their perspective fields of performance.

The limit is what is currently the known limit/has been documented, be in it running, jumping, lifting etc.

Cap's superhuman btw,

Cap is a movie peak human.
There are other humans in fiction that can match him.

Cap is a peak human in comics. Wilson Fisk can match him in strength (if not exceed him).

Peak human is a theoretically term. They don’t exist in real life.

The limit has not been documented.

Where in the MCU movies is Cap called a peak human?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
H1 is the worst troll on this site. I literally posted a clip stating BP is explicitly considered superhuman in his universe. We have multiple showings that make it painfully apparent that Super Soldiers and those who consume the heart-shaped herb are physical peers. The latest example being from IW itself. Notice the two at around the 0:40 mark casually outstripping everyone else but keeping pace with each other:

YouTube video

Seriously, Steve being superhuman isn't debatable. It's been confirmed via feats, via statements, via audio-commentaries from the people behind the films etc. Someone would have to blatantly ignore how the character was intended to be portrayed (based on multiple bits of onscreen and offscreen evidence) to argue that he is only "peak human" in his universe.

Well your job should be simple. Give proof from valid sources that Cap is meant to be superhuman and not enhanced or peak human.

Do the same for BP

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the MCU movies is Cap called a peak human?

That’s the highest Cap can be since there are other humans that can match him.
If there wasn’t then he would be superhuman.

Originally posted by h1a8
That’s the highest Cap can be since there are other humans that can match him.
If there wasn’t then he would be superhuman.

Where in the MCU movies is Cap stated to be a peak human?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze h1, stop being a dick. Cap is superhuman in every definition of the word. Just drop it. You know you're just being a troll at this point.

Is Cap a superhuman in the 616 universe?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the MCU movies is Cap stated to be a peak human?

If other humans can match you then you aren’t superhuman (by definition).

Originally posted by h1a8
Well your job should be simple. Give proof from valid sources that Cap is meant to be superhuman and not enhanced or peak human.

Do the same for BP

I literally posted a scene directly from the Black Panther film where it is explicitly stated that the herb grants "superhuman" strength, speed and instincts.

Also, pretty hilarious how it's my "job" to prove a negative to a statement you made, when nothing you have posted proves your claim to begin with.

As things stand, my direct screen clip >>> your bullshit mental gymnastics.

Originally posted by h1a8
If other humans can match you then you aren’t superhuman (by definition).

What other humans in the MCU can match Cap?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What other humans in the MCU can match Cap?

h1 prolly thinks zemo can match cap lmao

Originally posted by Robtard
I just gave you two examples of "peak humans" in their perspective fields of performance.

The limit is what is currently the known limit/has been documented, be in it running, jumping, lifting etc.

Cap's superhuman btw,

No it hasn't. No one knows the limit. It's all theoretical.
So that we can get the ball rolling, give me the source it was documented.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it hasn't. No one knows the limit. It's all theoretical.
So that we can get the ball rolling, give me the source it was documented.

You are quick to say Bane and Baleman are superhuman with 1 or 2 questionable feats. Yet Cap, T'Challa and Bucky have plenty of feats over several movies that show they are clearly super human above any peak humans in the MCU universe.

You are trying to bring in Comic book characteristics to the movie versions. Just because he is suppose to be peak human in the comics but even Comic Cap has many feats that have him at the super human category.