Can Thor replicate Superman's nuke feat?

Started by Silent Master10 pages

Originally posted by Inhuman
You are quick to say Bane and Baleman are superhuman with 1 or 2 questionable feats. Yet Cap, T'Challa and Bucky have plenty of feats over several movies that show they are clearly super human above any peak humans in the MCU universe.

You are trying to bring in Comic book characteristics to the movie versions. Just because he is suppose to be peak human in the comics but even Comic Cap has many feats that have him at the super human category.

He's also stated that Rorschach and Nite Owl have superhuman feats.

Originally posted by Inhuman
You are quick to say Bane and Baleman are superhuman with 1 or 2 questionable feats. Yet Cap, T'Challa and Bucky have plenty of feats over several movies that show they are clearly super human above any peak humans in the MCU universe.

You are trying to bring in Comic book characteristics to the movie versions. Just because he is suppose to be peak human in the comics but even Comic Cap has many feats that have him at the super human category.

Superhuman in reference to real world humans, not movie humans. Semantics.

H1, you are literally trying to make up your own definition of terms. In other words, you're lying about what superhuman and peak human means.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superhuman in reference to real world humans, not movie humans. Semantics.

What normal humans in the MCU can match Cap's best feats?

Originally posted by FrothByte
H1, you are literally trying to make up your own definition of terms. In other words, you're lying about what superhuman and peak human means.
I didn't make up any definitions. Peak human is the highest a human can possibly attain. Superhuman is beyond a human can possibly attain.

In movies, these limits are higher than in real life.
Cap isn't superhuman in the fictional universe because there are other fictional humans that can match him. Cap is peak human in the fictional universe and superhuman in the real universe.
BW is athletic human.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What normal humans in the MCU can match Cap's best feats?

Your question implies that superhuman only applies to that character's fictional universe. It doesn't. It applies to all universes where humans exist.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't make up any definitions. Peak human is the highest a human can possibly attain. Superhuman is beyond a human can possibly attain.

In movies, these limits are higher than in real life.
Cap isn't superhuman in the fictional universe because there are other fictional humans that can match him. Cap is peak human in the fictional universe and superhuman in the real universe.
BW is athletic human.

Show me a definition of terms that apecifies Cap's feats as merely peak human. Go on, cite a proper source. Or is it simply your opinion?

Originally posted by h1a8
Your question implies that superhuman only applies to that character's fictional universe. It doesn't. It applies to all universes where humans exist.

You're arguing that Cap isn't superhuman in the MCU, so provide the normal MCU humans that can match his best feats.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Show me a definition of terms that apecifies Cap's feats as merely peak human. Go on, cite a proper source. Or is it simply your opinion?

Cap is peak human OR LOWER. He's not superhuman (in the fictional world) because there are other fictional humans that can match him. It's not rocket science.

Super = Above

If a human = Cap
then Cap is not above all humans. Simple.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your question implies that superhuman only applies to that character's fictional universe. It doesn't. It applies to all universes where humans exist.

No it doesn't. That's your rule. You are trying to say that we can compare humans and peak humans from other films and franchises and apply them to Cap. That is nonsense.

You want to say that humans from , The die hard movies, Predator movies, Alien movies, Rambo movies, Watchmen movie, Nolan movies , etc etc are all the same. And if one "Human" does something that seems super human in one of those movies it also applies to the MCU movies. lol that nonsense.

Anyhow Humans and peak humans in the MCU universe (like Natasha, Shield Agents, DD) are even greater that most other film humans, AND Cap, T'challa, Bucky are clearly above even these MCU humans that are a cut above other movie humans. This just further shows how ridiculous it is saying Cap is just peak human.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're arguing that Cap isn't superhuman in the MCU, so provide the normal MCU humans that can match his best feats.

You are just moving the goalposts. Little do you know that such a goalpost doesn't refute my point.

If Cap is superhuman in relation to real world humans and he is superhuman in relation to MCU humans then how does that combat that he's not superhuman in relation to ALL fictional humans?

Originally posted by Inhuman
No it doesn't. That's your rule. You are trying to say that we can compare humans and peak humans from other films and franchises and apply them to Cap. That is nonsense.

You want to say that humans from , The die hard movies, Predator movies, Alien movies, Rambo movies, Watchmen movie, Nolan movies , etc etc are all the same. And if one "Human" does something that seems super human in one of those movies it also applies to the MCU movies. lol that nonsense.

Anyhow Humans and peak humans in the MCU universe are even greater that most other film humans, AND Cap, T'challa, Bucky are clearly above even these MCU humans that are a cut above other movie humans. Just goes to show how ridiculous saying Cap is just peak human.

Ok Cap is superhuman in relation to MCU humans.
How does that help you?
He's still not superhuman in relation to all fictional humans.
That's my point.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok Cap is superhuman in relation to MCU humans.
How does that help you?
He's still not superhuman in relation to all fictional humans.
That's my point.

List some fictional humans that match Caps feats. Don't mention characters that are clearly super human like the People flying and sticking to walls in martial arts movies, or some other dumb example like that.

And MCU "humans" are above other movie humans. MCU humans >>> Humans from Saving private Ryan (for example)

Originally posted by h1a8
You are just moving the goalposts. Little do you know that such a goalpost doesn't refute my point.

If Cap is superhuman in relation to real world humans and he is superhuman in relation to MCU humans then how does that combat that he's not superhuman in relation to ALL fictional humans?

There are movies out there where humans have better feats than Superman or the Hulk. if that is your real argument, it's retarded.

Originally posted by Silent Master
There are movies out there where humans have better feats than Superman or the Hulk. if that is your real argument, it's retarded.

There are no movies that have humans with better feats than Superman's or Hulk's best.

See how inserting "best" changes the whole meaning. Didn't you try this when saying there is no human that can match Cap's best?

Originally posted by Inhuman
List some fictional humans that match Caps feats. Don't mention characters that are clearly super human like the People flying and sticking to walls in martial arts movies, or some other dumb example like that.

And MCU "humans" are above other movie humans. MCU humans >>> Humans from Saving private Ryan (for example)

Why is it dumb? I stated that such humans are from MA films.
Hell Ozy can damn near match Cap's best.

Originally posted by h1a8
There are no movies that have humans with better feats than Superman's or Hulk's best.

See how inserting "best" changes the whole meaning. Didn't you try this when saying there is no human that can match Cap's best?

Yes, there are. do you enjoy always being wrong?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, there are. do you enjoy always being wrong?

Prove it. Show me a movie where an genetically or chemically unaltered human being has feats beyond anything Superman has done.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why is it dumb? I stated that such humans are from MA films.
Hell Ozy can damn near match Cap's best.

Its stupid because those are not regular humans, even for that film standards. You didnt have every human in the crouching tiger movies flying and sticking to walls. It was only the trained Ninja type characters. Villagers werent doing that shit.

I could make an argument for Black widow giving Ozy a fight and might beat him a few times. Shes fought and bested, Killer robots, Chitari, Outriders, Proxima midnight and Corvas Glaive as well. All which were clearly super human.

Ozy shouldnt be that much of a threat as those opponents. Anyhow even so Cap is WAAAYYY above Natasha, and Natasha is a peak human in the MCU and has several super human feats of her own.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. Show me a movie where an genetically or chemically unaltered human being has feats beyond anything Superman has done.

Dragon Ball, you lose.