^^^Well, MaZeRaIII‘s theory isn't about raw power, its about the -right- power, so a good showing, or “stomp” as is the popular expression, on Rogol’s part wouldn't necessarily change that, any more than Supes having a particularly good showing in a fight, would suddenly negate the effects of kryptonite.
Galan saw Doomsday somewhere in the background of the preview art. DD is his boy, anyone who can beat him is a Skyfather/Abstract/Carver level in Galan's mind 😉
That showing will surely help us to gauge Rogol's power level better, but that's it. Won't necessarily mean he can overcome Rulk's energy absorption all of a sudden, like WWH did.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
It won't help us figure out shit. All it will do is muddy the waters by shitting on every Superman bad boy. Then someone other than Bendis will come along and have him get torn in half by Zod.
Heh, you're probably right.
Do you think DD will get one-shotted with a nonchalant slap? Or he'll get completely annihilated off-panel, like the d-lister he is?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Rogol's balding pattern is weird.
You want to call him "daddy", don't you.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Galan saw Doomsday somewhere in the background of the preview art. DD is his boy, anyone who can beat him is a Skyfather/Abstract/Carver level in Galan's mind 😉That showing will surely help us to gauge Rogol's power level better, but that's it. Won't necessarily mean he can overcome Rulk's energy absorption all of a sudden, like WWH did.
Yep
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Galan saw Doomsday somewhere in the background of the preview art. DD is his boy, anyone who can beat him is a Skyfather/Abstract/Carver level in Galan's mind 😉That showing will surely help us to gauge Rogol's power level better, but that's it. Won't necessarily mean he can overcome Rulk's energy absorption all of a sudden, like WWH did.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWWe don't even know why Rogol is so powerful, or what his 'energy source' is. Superman mused that he *might* absorb solar radiation, but that was obviously not the case at all -- by the end of the mini, Superman STILL hadn't figured out what the source of his power is. Rogol is something different entirely... He's not Kryptonian, though(hell, Kelex didn't even know what species he is.)
Galan saw Doomsday somewhere in the background of the preview art. DD is his boy, anyone who can beat him is a Skyfather/Abstract/Carver level in Galan's mind 😉That showing will surely help us to gauge Rogol's power level better, but that's it. Won't necessarily mean he can overcome Rulk's energy absorption all of a sudden, like WWH did.
The notion that Rulk could just waltz up and absorb Rogol's energy, despite his massive speed, ranged attacks, skill advantage, and overall strength, is baseless... But I know you're just Stilt-trolling me rn. It's cute, as always. 👆
Originally posted by One Big MobNo, if Rogol ends up beating the baddies in the PZ, it will be a MASSIVE feat for him. No doubt about it. I don't at all like the thought of him being THAT powerful, but I won't be surprised if he is. #BendisWank
It won't help us figure out shit. All it will do is muddy the waters by shitting on every Superman bad boy. Then someone other than Bendis will come along and have him get torn in half by Zod.
You can speculate about what might happen in the future, but that won't matter until it actually happens.
Rulk took on the Avengers and was literally standing in one spot laughing while Sentry attacked him. I need you to dwell on that for a bit. Hell, he repeated this when he fought Odin force Thor. He stood still with a smile while Thor hammered his face. Beating someone and outright brushing off high tier beings attacks...
Rulk stomps this and he holds a lot of edges here as well.
Iirc he beat Dormammu as well and killed a watcher and tanked an attack from Galactus that sent him hurtling across the Galaxy.
Originally posted by Galan007
We don't even know why Rogol is so powerful, or what his 'energy source' is. Superman mused that he *might* absorb solar radiation, but that was obviously not the case at all -- by the end of the mini, Superman STILL hadn't figured out what the source of his power is. Rogol is something different entirely... He's not Kryptonian, though(hell, Kelex didn't even know what species he is.)The notion that Rulk could just waltz up and absorb Rogol's energy, despite his massive speed, ranged attacks, skill advantage, and overall strength, is baseless... But I know you're just Stilt-trolling me rn. It's cute, as always. 👆
The same power source that allows Clint to lift cars with one hand or do better against Hand Ninjas than any other Avenger on his team.
Spoiler:
Bendispower, duh.
DD is a goner and you know it 🙁 😛
Originally posted by carver9
Iirc he beat Dormammu as well
Not likely. He killed Tiger Shark and Namor, flew through Dormie's head and left him stuck in his dimension.
Of course, Loeb's writing was super-goofy, so you *could* argue that flying through him effectively defeated/killed Dormammu... 😂
Originally posted by carver9
and killed a watcher
No, he didn't. Uatu got punched out, but he was still alive.
Killing the original Grandmaster with two blows, now THAT is the feat you should've mentioned, carv.
Originally posted by Galan007
We'll see what happens when Rogol Zaar fights all the rogues that are trapped in the Phantom Zone. If he stomps them(which wouldn't surprise me), he'll stomp Rulk.
Not really a good form of stipulation here, since if people haven't forgotten, Phantom Zone is not your traiditonal prison dimension, the said dimension has depowering effect on its inhabitants, as Eradicator said Phantom Zone has "nullification forces" and later when Eradicator was trapped in Zone he couldn't use his energy powers due to those forces and Zod described PZ's energies as "poisonous" which weakened him in that story arc and took time to heal and wear off those energies, on top of that when Cyborg Superman was in the zone he also said that his powers don't work there and so on.....as well as even Dan Jurgens commenting on the "weakening" part, so using characters fighting inside the zone is not really good example to measure one's power-level.
So weakened Rogol fighting weakened rogues is not really gonna be a good power-level indicator overall.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The same power source that allows Clint to lift cars with one hand or do better against Hand Ninjas than any other Avenger on his team.Spoiler:
Bendispower, duh.DD is a goner and you know it 🙁 😛
Not likely. He killed Tiger Shark and Namor, flew through Dormie's head and left him stuck in his dimension.
Of course, Loeb's writing was super-goofy, so you *could* argue that flying through him effectively defeated/killed Dormammu... 😂
No, he didn't. Uatu got punched out, but he was still alive.
Killing the original Grandmaster with two blows, now THAT is the feat you should've mentioned, carv.
Yeah, you're probably right. He passed through his head... unclear if Dorm was defeated.
Thought he killed the Watcher... oh well. Still a beastly showing.