Who has the greatest strength "feat". Hulk vs Thor

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, thanks for proving i didn't say that.

What am saying is that whereas Thor dispersed the weight throughout all his body, Hulk mainly used his arm.

Ofcourse he had to use his legs (that's common sense), chest and others, but most of the force would be focus on his arm (He had to make sure his arm didn't bend).

If you were locked with the ground and couldn't move backwards then keeping your arm traight becomes more difficult. This is because your legs are stronger and would buckle after the arm buckles (not before).

Fact: Hulk used the vast majority of his muscles when punching the Leviathan as Thor used in the Forge/ring feat

Fact: Hulk didn't just punch it, he then braced his entire body against it's weight and momentum for a good 4-5 seconds before he stopped it to caused it to flip'

Fact: Josh does not understand how muscles and the body work

Fact: Josh will be mad now

Originally posted by h1a8
you can be pushed with a 100 ton force while keeping your arms straight. You would just keep sliding back though.

If you were locked with the ground and couldn't move backwards then keeping your arm traight becomes more difficult. This is because your legs are stronger and would buckle after the arm buckles (not before).

Push and hitting are different things. Hulk punched the Leviathan.

On one end you have the Leviathan's inertia and on the other you have the arm's inertial. Both opposing each other.

If Hulk's arm wasn't strong enough, then the arm would have bent or broken.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, thanks for proving i didn't say that.

What am saying is that whereas Thor dispersed the weight throughout all his body, Hulk mainly used his arm.

Ofcourse he had to use his legs (that's common sense), chest and others, but most of the force would be focus on his arm (He had to make sure his arm didn't bend).

lol. I don't think you understand the mechanics behind a punch. Arm muscle-strength doesn't actually contribute much to the strength behind a punch. That's not even considering the fact that Hulk had to brace himself against the Leviathan after the punch.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Hulk used the vast majority of his muscles when punching the Leviathan as Thor used in the Forge/ring feat

Fact: Hulk didn't just punch it, he then braced his entire body against it's weight and momentum for a good 4-5 seconds before he stopped it to caused it to flip'

Fact: Josh does not understand how muscles and the body work

Fact: Josh will be mad now

So Thor grabbing the rope with both arms and Hulk using one arm while his other arm was mid air means that Hulk used the same muscles as Thor!?

Fact: you don't know what you are talking about.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Arm muscle-strength doesn't actually contribute much to the strength behind a punch.

So you are saying that a guy with weaker muscles can hit stronger than a man with stronger muscles? 😂

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So you are saying that a guy with weaker muscles can hit stronger than a man with stronger muscles? 😂

Yes, provided said weaker guy has better technique. Why, do you think stronman champions can punch harder than a heavyweight boxer?

Also, I thought you were talking about arm muscles. Why are you now seemingly including "muscles" in a general sense?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So you are saying that a guy with weaker muscles can hit stronger than a man with stronger muscles? 😂

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, provided said weaker guy has better technique. Why, do you think stronman champions can punch harder than a heavyweight boxer?

Also, I thought you were talking about arm muscles. Why are you now seemingly including "muscles" in a general sense?

Because he doesn't have a real argument, he is just throwing things against a wall and seeing what sticks. he is hoping that if he keeps doing it long enough that enough things will stick that he can then put them together in a "in summary" post that he can claim was his argument all along.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, provided said weaker guy has better technique. Why, do you think stronman champions can punch harder than a heavyweight boxer?

Also, I thought you were talking about arm muscles. Why are you now seemingly including "muscles" in a general sense?

Because I never said a punch is determined by the strength of the arm.

I said that the Leviathan countering the Arm's inertia would result in the Arm having to counter the strength of the Leviathan in order to remain straight. And that would require muscle strength. We aren't even talking about the punch's force, we are talking about Hulk withstanding the Leviathan's force.

In fact, the one who brought arm muscle into the conversation was you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, yes. George Foreman was a big strong guy in his prime, but not even half as strong as someone like Mark Henry. Who do you imagine punches harder?

I agree technique is part of a hard punch. Make both guys having the same tecnique except one has stronger muscles (legs, back, arms, etc) and you will realize muscles do play a part into the equation.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because he doesn't have a real argument, he is just throwing things against a wall and seeing what sticks. he is hoping that if he keeps doing it long enough that enough things will stick that he can then put them together in a "in summary" post that he can claim was his argument all along.

My argument is simple and real. Thor used both arms, while Hulk used one. Perhaps if you were to pay a bit of attention you would avoid making a fool of yourself.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
My argument is simple and real. Thor used both arms, while Hulk used one. Perhaps if you were to pay a bit of attention you would avoid making a fool of yourself.

If that is your argument, expplain these quotoes.

So you are saying that a guy with weaker muscles can hit stronger than a man with stronger muscles?

What am saying is that whereas Thor dispersed the weight throughout all his body, Hulk mainly used his arm.

But there is also considering the fact that Thor used his legs, arms, chest, back, and the rest of his body to disperse the weight.

Hulk stopped a Leviathan with a single punch.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If that is your argument, expplain these quotoes.

[b]So you are saying that a guy with weaker muscles can hit stronger than a man with stronger muscles?

What am saying is that whereas Thor dispersed the weight throughout all his body, Hulk mainly used his arm.

But there is also considering the fact that Thor used his legs, arms, chest, back, and the rest of his body to disperse the weight.

Hulk stopped a Leviathan with a single punch. [/B]

By me saying that Thor used both hands while Hulk used one I mean to say that the feats are different in nature.

Those quotes are other arguments that arose from debates with other members participating in this thread. Part of the same premise that Thor's feat is different from Hulk's.

"other arguments"

LOL!!!!!1

Originally posted by Silent Master
"other arguments"

LOL!!!!!1

????....

A debate can contain multiple arguments. But it's okay for someone who doesnt know what debating is.

Either way, not much debate to be had, the ring feat is top. Thread addressed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Mass of Leviathan = 300-500tons
Speed of Leviathan =15-30m/s
Stopping time= Time to reach speed from 0 = 4 seconds

Average Force needed to stop
= 2 x mass x average acceleration
= 2 x mass x change in velocity /time
= 2 x 500tons x (30m/s) /4s
= 764 tons of force.

Since Hulk didn't completely stop the Leviathan in 4 seconds (would have taken longer if it didn't rotate) then he supplied less than 764 tons of force.

With Thor's feat we have a lot of unknowns. We don't what composition the ice is made of to determine hardness. We don't Know if Thor and Rocket even moved the rings or just yanked them loose from the ice (as Rocket stated).
The part that was covered with ice was a lot smaller than the rings. Once the ice broke, the rings were free to move on their own. Did they? We are not sure.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Watch the movie.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Because I never said a punch is determined by the strength of the arm.

I said that the Leviathan countering the Arm's inertia would result in the Arm having to counter the strength of the Leviathan in order to remain straight. And that would require muscle strength. We aren't even talking about the punch's force, we are talking about Hulk withstanding the Leviathan's force.

In fact, the one who brought arm muscle into the conversation was you.

This is what you said:

Hulk stopped a Leviathan with a single punch.

What am saying is that whereas Thor dispersed the weight throughout all his body, Hulk mainly used his arm.

It proves you don't know how punches work.