Originally posted by h1a8
About 3 seconds from the time it hit Thor's hammer., watch it again.So 100,000 strikes of lightning could definitely achieve the same goal. Remember the land was frozen.
But the lightning didn't strike the ground for 3 seconds, which means it didn't take the lightning 3 seconds of accumulated power to destroy it, so your logic is faulty. Unless of course you want to imply that Mjolnir is capable of absorbing lightning and storing it like a battery?
Originally posted by FrothByteYes Thor can store energy inside of Mjolnir. I was counting 3 seconds from the moment the lightning connected to Mjolnir until the bolt disappeared. The lightning made contact with the ground for about 2 seconds. 2 seconds would be over 66,000 lightning bolts.
But the lightning didn't strike the ground for 3 seconds, which means it didn't take the lightning 3 seconds of accumulated power to destroy it, so your logic is faulty. Unless of course you want to imply that Mjolnir is capable of absorbing lightning and storing it like a battery?
Originally posted by h1a8If he can release energy faster than he can store it, then he can do the same in this match and kill Ares.
Yes Thor can store energy inside of Mjolnir. I was counting 3 seconds from the moment the lightning connected to Mjolnir until the bolt disappeared. The lightning made contact with the ground for about 2 seconds. 2 seconds would be over 66,000 lightning bolts.
Another fault in h1s logic is that he is assuming every lightning strike is a single strike. Thors look pretty damn big so could easily be multiple strikes packed into a single blast.
Thats a basic flaw in his argument even ignoring that these are fictional blasts and possibly magically empowered.
So the only Fair way to compare them is to compare destructive power which h1 is desperately trying to avoid. And if he does touch on them hes simply in denial and massively low balls.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Another fault in h1s logic is that he is assuming every lightning strike is a single strike. Thors look pretty damn big so could easily be multiple strikes packed into a single blast.Thats a basic flaw in his argument even ignoring that these are fictional blasts and possibly magically empowered.
So the only Fair way to compare them is to compare destructive power which h1 is desperately trying to avoid. And if he does touch on them hes simply in denial and massively low balls.
I said this days, if not weeks ago.
Each second of Thor's lightning is like more than 33,000 regular bolts of lightning (since a regular bolt lasts for 0.00003 of a second).
And don't confuse the size of the stream of electrons with the size of the glowing plasma that surrounds the stream. The width of the glowing plasma can be extremely large.
Originally posted by Nevan
If he can release energy faster than he can store it, then he can do the same in this match and kill Ares.
Correct.
But the problem is that Thor releases the energy at almost the same rate as he stored it (slightly lower actually).
In the Iron Man vs Thor fight, count the seconds in which Thor absorbs lightning and count the seconds it take for Thor to release it.
Do the same for the building leviathan feat.
So basically Thor's power output in watts is nearly the same as a standard bolt of lightning.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well we know AS A FACT that it can kill him. So thats that then as far as your “logic” goes.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes Thor can store energy inside of Mjolnir. I was counting 3 seconds from the moment the lightning connected to Mjolnir until the bolt disappeared. The lightning made contact with the ground for about 2 seconds. 2 seconds would be over 66,000 lightning bolts.
If that's true then Thor is even more powerful. Because he should be able to charge his hammer for number of seconds and unleash an even more devastating blast. Thank you for proving that Thor wins this contest.
Originally posted by h1a8
I said this days, if not weeks ago.
Each second of Thor's lightning is like more than 33,000 regular bolts of lightning (since a regular bolt lasts for 0.00003 of a second).And don't confuse the size of the stream of electrons with the size of the glowing plasma that surrounds the stream. The width of the glowing plasma can be extremely large.
Correct.
But the problem is that Thor releases the energy at almost the same rate as he stored it (slightly lower actually).
In the Iron Man vs Thor fight, count the seconds in which Thor absorbs lightning and count the seconds it take for Thor to release it.
Do the same for the building leviathan feat.So basically Thor's power output in watts is nearly the same as a standard bolt of lightning.
We also know that it can't kill him.
Contradiction.
Either Thor can discharge his lightning at a faster rate than he charged it, or his lightning is more powerful than normal.
Originally posted by Nevan
You literally said he releases it faster than he charges it when someone brought up Jotunheim.Either Thor can discharge his lightning at a faster rate than he charged it, or his lightning is more powerful than normal.
I never said that.
The lightning was in contact with Thor's hammer for a split second before Thor guided the hammer to the ground. Once on the ground the beam lasted about 2 seconds.
That feat isn't applicable to this fight since Thor wouldn't be trying to destroy the ground here, especially against someone who can fly.
Originally posted by FrothByte
If that's true then Thor is even more powerful. Because he should be able to charge his hammer for number of seconds and unleash an even more devastating blast. Thank you for proving that Thor wins this contest.
No. Thor blasts lasts about the same amount of time as he absorbs. Lightning has a power of about 10 billion watts.
Thor would unleash a blast that has 10 billion watts in power but for over several seconds. The total energy would be more than a regular lightning bolt but the power would be the same.
Originally posted by h1a8
I said this days, if not weeks ago.
Each second of Thor's lightning is like more than 33,000 regular bolts of lightning (since a regular bolt lasts for 0.00003 of a second).And don't confuse the size of the stream of electrons with the size of the glowing plasma that surrounds the stream. The width of the glowing plasma can be extremely large.
How do you know every time Thor does a huge blast that its just a single lightning strike, and not multiple lightning strikes coming down at the exact same time and hitting the exact same spot?
Originally posted by h1a8We also know that it can't kill him.
Contradiction.
What? Lol
No its a fact it can kill him because it does kill him. End of.
Clearly when it didnt kill him either we should ignore that contradiction, or GOD FORBID, that blast was less powerful!
But either way you cant just ignore or brush aside his ultimate defeat/death Lmao.
Originally posted by h1a8
No. Thor blasts lasts about the same amount of time as he absorbs. Lightning has a power of about 10 billion watts.
Thor would unleash a blast that has 10 billion watts in power but for over several seconds. The total energy would be more than a regular lightning bolt but the power would be the same.
So basically you're saying that the lightning that destroyed Jotunheim only had the power of a single bolt of lightning, considering that it only touched the ground for a fraction of a second before destroying it. Gotcha.
Don't know why you're disagreeing with me then when you clearly think that Thor's lightning bolts are that powerful.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
How do you know every time Thor does a huge blast that its just a single lightning strike, and not multiple lightning strikes coming down at the exact same time and hitting the exact same spot?What? Lol
No its a fact it can kill him because it does kill him. End of.
Clearly when it didnt kill him either we should ignore that contradiction, or GOD FORBID, that blast was less powerful!
But either way you cant just ignore or brush aside his ultimate defeat/death Lmao.
A typical lightning bolt last for 30 microseconds. The fact that Thor's lightning last for multiple seconds means that it is thousands of bolts of lightning. I've been saying this over and over.
Originally posted by h1a8
A typical lightning bolt last for 30 microseconds. The fact that Thor's lightning last for multiple seconds means that it is thousands of bolts of lightning. I've been saying this over and over.
It doesn't matter how long Thor's lightning bolt lasted when the tundra was demolished as soon as Thor's lightning hit it.
The ground didn't get destroyed only at the END of those 3 seconds, so your logic is inapplicable.
Originally posted by h1a8
A typical lightning bolt last for 30 microseconds. The fact that Thor's lightning last for multiple seconds means that it is thousands of bolts of lightning. I've been saying this over and over.
Yeah except you seem to be saying they are hitting one after the other hence taking longer.
Im saying they could be multiple Lightning strikes hitting at the exact same microsecond.