Who would be a bigger threat: Thor vs. Superman

@Imp:

I think the problem here is that there is sufficient evidence out there (multiple of them) that Thor is definitely bullet proof:

1) Sif and Loki has been shown to be bulletproof. Loki in particular has taken hits (like an explosion to the face strong enough to blow up the speeder he was on) that are far more destructive than an aircraft bullet.
2) Thor's huge selection of durability "feats" like eating massive explosions/blasts of power to the face (Bifrost explosion, Sokovia explosion, Thor's ship exploding in IW, Nidavelir blast, etc).
3) Thor has been able to go toe-to-toe with Hulk, actually has superior (since IW) overall durability "feats" to Hulk and that Hulk
4) Thor was shot by the quinjet in Avengers 2 (though not clear if he was hit due to absence of effects, there is practically zero chance of not getting hit when he was shown to be in the direct line of fire with no cover (he was practically in the center of it). And those weapons spit out like 50-100 rounds a second.

The cause of the conflict is 3-fold:

1) h1 refuses to accept Thor's "feats", downplaying them or downright ignoring them to maintain his lowball narrative going as far as trying to downplay the Nidavelir "feat", claiming at first that it had no-to very little pressure even though Thor was fired out of it like a bullet the second he let go and ignoring the DIRECT words of the character Eitri (full force of a star), trying to lowball by claiming it was just figurative language and that Eitri just meant heat (even though there is no evidence of this). He is also claiming Thor never got hit by the Quinjet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCKfVZ6ekw

starts at (0:05)

h1 is also claiming that things like the Bifrost explosion, the Sokovia blast and the ship explosion in IW don't match up to a Vulcan bullet, because:

2) h1 tried to deceptively overhype the power of a vulcan cannon bullet (at one point claiming that it had 300 million tons per sq inch of pressure). We have provided him with real world experiments where they actually directly measured how hard a Vulcan hits but he prefers his (unsupported, highly dubious) math because it allows him to continually troll and lowball.

3) h1 thinks Thor being practically a peer to Hulk means zilch in determining his durability vs bullets. Even though he's been practically double hammer fist pounded by Hulk in the head with zero cuts to the face. Probably because h1 thinks a vulcan cannon hits at 300 million tons or whatever.

Anyway, that's the gist of it so far.

You forgot to mention the 100ft neutron star that pew pews out a single proton at a time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= [b]313 million tons per square inch

So give me feats where Thor was shown to withstand pressures on his body above 313 millions tons per square inch. [/B]

Originally posted by h1a8
Star was probably around less than 100 feet in diameter.

Originally posted by h1a8
The feats doesn't matter.

Proof that h1 is a troll

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I... just gave you the evidence. A couple of points actually which you havent addressed at all.

Either address the points or stop the trolling.

But less force than an aircraft bullet right? Lmao

Not knowing what a monkey is doesn't prove that the writer intended for Thor
to run from bullets because he does not know whether they can hurt him. That conclusion doesn't follow. And Fiction doesn't operate that way. Writers are usually clear with their intent. A character runs from shit that can harm them. Simple as that.

Originally posted by h1a8
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= [b]313 million tons per square inch

So give me feats where Thor was shown to withstand pressures on his body above 313 millions tons per square inch. [/B]

Originally posted by h1a8
Star was probably around less than 100 feet in diameter.

Originally posted by h1a8
The feats doesn't matter.

Proof that h1 is a troll

Originally posted by Silent Master
Proof that h1 is a troll

You can post this as much as you want. It want change anything. You are wasting your time. You may continue. That's the last thing I'll say about it.

Of course it's the last thing you'll say about it, because you know that you cannot defend any of those statements.

OMG...

A 100ft Neutron Star!????

Seriously!?????????????

h1a8....

Just please tell me you weren't being serious about that....

If you follow the link and read all of h1's responses, at no time has he ever indicated that it was a joke. So if he tries using that excuse now, he's lying.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
OMG...

A 100ft Neutron Star!????

Seriously!?????????????

h1a8....

Just please tell me you weren't being serious about that....

The star is larger than 100ft.
I already explained that I misinterpreted the feat.
Silent likes to posts old quotes, even after a poster retracted the statement. He likes to act dumb as if the retraction didn't ever happen.

Anyway, from the scaling of the scene, the star appears to be somewhere between 0.2 to 1km.

Look here.

The opening of the Iris is about 2 Thor heights in diameter.

Here's the program I used to get the first calculation.
I didn't do any math, I allowed the program to do everything.

Calling them mistakes or misinterpretations is just your latest excuse. We're not stupid, we are more than capable of noticing how all of your so-called mistakes/misinterpretations always favor your argument.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Calling them mistakes or misinterpretations is just your latest excuse. We're not stupid, we are more than capable of noticing how all of your so-called mistakes/misinterpretations always favor your argument.

The app is called Graph89.

Calling them mistakes or misinterpretations is just your latest excuse. We're not stupid, we are more than capable of noticing how all of your so-called mistakes/misinterpretations always favor your argument.

To be honest, both would be unstoppable in the real world.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
@Imp:

I think the problem here is that there is sufficient evidence out there (multiple of them) that Thor is definitely bullet proof:

1) Sif and Loki has been shown to be bulletproof. Loki in particular has taken hits (like an explosion to the face strong enough to blow up the speeder he was on) that are far more destructive than an aircraft bullet.
2) Thor's huge selection of durability "feats" like eating massive explosions/blasts of power to the face (Bifrost explosion, Sokovia explosion, Thor's ship exploding in IW, Nidavelir blast, etc).
3) Thor has been able to go toe-to-toe with Hulk, actually has superior (since IW) overall durability "feats" to Hulk and that Hulk
4) Thor was shot by the quinjet in Avengers 2 (though not clear if he was hit due to absence of effects, there is practically zero chance of not getting hit when he was shown to be in the direct line of fire with no cover (he was practically in the center of it). And those weapons spit out like 50-100 rounds a second.

The cause of the conflict is 3-fold:

1) h1 refuses to accept Thor's "feats", downplaying them or downright ignoring them to maintain his lowball narrative going as far as trying to downplay the Nidavelir "feat", claiming at first that it had no-to very little pressure even though Thor was fired out of it like a bullet the second he let go and ignoring the DIRECT words of the character Eitri (full force of a star), trying to lowball by claiming it was just figurative language and that Eitri just meant heat (even though there is no evidence of this). He is also claiming Thor never got hit by the Quinjet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCKfVZ6ekw

starts at (0:05)

h1 is also claiming that things like the Bifrost explosion, the Sokovia blast and the ship explosion in IW don't match up to a Vulcan bullet, because:

2) h1 tried to deceptively overhype the power of a vulcan cannon bullet (at one point claiming that it had 300 million tons per sq inch of pressure). We have provided him with real world experiments where they actually directly measured how hard a Vulcan hits but he prefers his (unsupported, highly dubious) math because it allows him to continually troll and lowball.

3) h1 thinks Thor being practically a peer to Hulk means zilch in determining his durability vs bullets. Even though he's been practically double hammer fist pounded by Hulk in the head with zero cuts to the face. Probably because h1 thinks a vulcan cannon hits at 300 million tons or whatever.

Anyway, that's the gist of it so far.

Pointless post.
Thor is bulletproof. Everyone agrees to that. You are moving the goalposts. We are discussing being aircraft bulletproof, which is VASTLY different.

Although irrelevant to AIRCRAFT BULLETS, Sif is not bulletproof. She was shown to block bullets.

Bifrost explosion wasn't great enough to show resistance against aircraft bullets. Thor was merely riding the waves.

Sokovia, you have to prove Thor was even present when the island exploded. Then you have to prove that the explosion was on the level of aircraft bullets.

Thor wasn't show to be hit, therefore we cannot assume that he was.

The initial calculation were of error, I stated this. You want to lie as if I'm still supporting those old numbers? I'm not.

Don't forget that the writer had Thor run from aircraft bullets out of fear.
That's clear intent. Why would the writer try to trick the audience?

It's funny that h1 is trying to bait by calling me a liar when everyone knows who the liar here is.

And then he goes about his usual lowballing routine that no one is buying.

As a troll, all he is is just baiting people to engage him. He's failed in every attempt to be convincing, so I guess he's just decided to simply resorting to become one of the drag-out-the-debate trolls w/c is pretty much beneath me (and everyone else) to even speak directly to.

The thread is flawed, both would be unstoppable in the real world.

Originally posted by h1a8

Sokovia, you have to prove Thor was even present when the island exploded. Then you have to prove that the explosion was on the level of aircraft bullets.

And what about the Asgardian ship that blew up with Thor in the middle of it?

Do we have to prove Thor was close enough Troll?

Do your retarded calculations compute aircraft fire being more powerful than that blast?

Go on Troll on then.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
The thread is flawed, both would be unstoppable in the real world.

Well, I agree. They both are pretty much ELE's for humanity if they decided to wipe us out.

h1 is the one debating that Thor would go down to the world military because:

Originally posted by h1a8
Aircraft bullets will penetrate him.