Red Hood Vs Bullseye

You are just making reasons to explain his inconsistency. But going back to Punisher whose shows this remarkably well, Bullseye performed best against him the very first time they met in Daniel Way's Bullseye Greatest Hits #3. And this was before Lester even became Bullseye, he pretty easily countered everything Frank tried to do. And would have put a knife thru his chest if not for the Frank's chest protection.

A lot of Bullseye better feats comes early on like when he easily defeated and captured Black Widow. Bullseye would be extremely fortunate to defeat her now, it certainly wouldn't be as easy as before. Bullseye was getting worked by Americop, got shot in the back of the leg and easily captured with an electrified net before Penance stepped in. What evidence Sin, do you have of him being a consistent elite fighter? It seems I'm the one providing most of the info here.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Again you come into this thread stating obvious things. Of course Bullseye has studied Matt and Elektra doesn't make his ability to stalemate them at times any less impressive. But then like I have showed DD (and Elektra) can dominate him in h2h, which goes back to his inconsistency. This isn't anything too hard to comprehend well maybe for you.

AGAIN:

Originally posted by Supermutant
Lester can go from stalemating both Elektra and Daredevil to being own in one shot by Taskmaster. I think you need to re-educate yourself on what consistent means.

Originally posted by Supermutant
You just gave reasons why Bullseye is inconsistent. I'm not saying losing to Taskmaster shows inconsistency. I'm stating that Bullseye stalemating both DD and Elektra simultaneously in one comic, then getting knock down casually by Taskmaster in one shot show inconsistency.

How could this possibly be hard to understand, even for a two digit IQ like you?

I just pointed out that, even if your position for Bullseye being inconsistent would be true, the actual arguments you're using are, as suited for you, dumb as shit.

Is the 'Mutant' part of your username the extra chromosome?

SuperChromosome, you shall be called from now on.

Originally posted by Supermutant
For those who may not know Bane actually stalked Batman for months, learning his secret identity, watching Bruce fight his rogue gallery much of whom Bane let loose. Before he went into Wayne manor and broke him. You know just in case people didn't know that. Apparently who should state obvious things before you post. And even better the heroes can have detail files on what the villains can do, and routinely train to beat them, but its a negative for the villains to train to fight the heroes. What a moron.

Holy

Shit...

The point isn't that Bullseye is the only hero that studies their villains, the point is that you can't use his performance against Daredevil/Elektra, when he specifically spends extended periods of time studying how to fight them, and contrast it against Taskmaster, against who he does not, as inconsistency.

Bullseye has studied Elektra so well, that she literally has to forget her entire training in order to gain the upper hand on him, as he knows her every move:

You're trying so hard to deflect how dumb your argument was, how bad your lack of knowledge is, and how terribly you got caught in another one of your dumbscapades, that it's pathetic, Chromy.

Originally posted by Supermutant
I mean thanks for the punisher scans which further demonstrates my point. Sometimes Bullseye can give Punisher a great fight other times not so much.

Why, because the second one lasted longer? Oh shit, he lasted 5 pages, instead of 3, my lord, the inconsistency!!!
I'll give you a hint as to why.

In

3

2

1

Hint:
Bullseye stabs Punisher in the second fight right in the arm, with a weapon he didn't use in the first, forcing Punisher to fight him with a stabbed arm [and still winning]:
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40266357/VFX-PunishvervsBullseye4-014.jpg.html

Oh shit...different weapons have..

Different outcomes?!

You then double-down on your retardation, and literally descend into chaos, and show Bullseye shooting him with rocket launchers [????????], out-prepping him [????] and generally nothing relevant to a straight up fight.

And this shows that, uh....he's...inconsistent against Punisher in a fight....??!? Do you mean to say "Bullseye is inconsistent in what weapons he has and uses?" Or did you, between posts, furiously try and read the issues for the first time, and you wanted to prove it?

Are you certifiably retarded?

And I mean that in the literal sense.

Do you have a certificate from the doctor?

Originally posted by Supermutant
he probably set it up that way

No.

Raz messed the forum up big time with the server move circa 2015. It's not Phil's fault, never was.

All I know is, Phil now has an album dedicated to Robert Downey Juniors.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Its really annoying trying to quote Phil and he probably set it up that way

bwhahahah!! phil would be a fukkin genius if he'd done it on purpose! maybe i'll look for some special character.... mmm

sorry to interrupt, now carry on.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No, it's just an inaccurate statement. American Eagle superhuman stats were up-played, plus BE had to pay for what he did to Jack Flag. Then the whole term is derogatory. Batroc is considered a "d-lister" until the playing field is equalized like in the raft and people steer clear of him.

Im just saying that without gear, prep and tools those two are pretty consistent imo.

Plus, Eagle cheated in that fight... and it doesn't help how Lester got shocked by that Thunderbolts tech in his neck...

Originally posted by leonidas
bwhahahah!! phil would be a fukkin genius if he'd done it on purpose! maybe i'll look for some special character.... mmm

sorry to interrupt, now carry on.

You're a special character.

Brock Lester.

Also impressive how civil this thread has been. The Darkside nexus of KMC

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're a special character.

😍

Originally posted by One Big Mob

Also impressive how civil this thread has been. The Darkside nexus of KMC

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Plus, Eagle cheated in that fight... and it doesn't help how Lester got shocked by that Thunderbolts tech in his neck...

Since I have it close, here's Crossbones plowing his sh*t in, but holding back at the end giving him the opportunity to run:

Given the environment [empty] I have a hard time seeing him as effective as he can be in the comics with the projectiles, to keep it at a distance. But, depending on what you see his standard equipment, he might take it, before he gets plowed.

Phil

Your argument was that he has better performances against Daredevil/Elektra, than he has against Taskmaster. You said this twice. I already quoted you. That is the part I addressed.

Moron I mentioned that BE in the past has been able to stalemate both Elektra and DD at the same time. Not that he can do that all the time or even that he is consistently shown to be at the level. Wow you are such as idiot. That's why he inconsistent because he can give A listers like those or Cap or even spiderman when Lester had back up from Norman's goons a good fight. Or he can be humiliated like against Taskmaster or Clint. He either has really high feats or really low not a lot in between.

Again this isn't rocket science. B/c you came in here like a fool and quoted me like I'm against a general remedial comic principle ie. arch rival study each other, now you stuck in a perpetual motion of slapping yourself in the face.

You also should apologize to people with down syndrome as they are much more intelligent than you.

Then I used you "own" Punisher scans against you as its clear you had no idea where they came from or the context. Plus Lester had already performed extremely well against Frank in their first encounter. And then struggle mightly against him in other times or actually used him to accomplish his own agenda .

Personal insults aside which really doesn't bother me, it just shows how you got caught and embarrassed not having a clue outside of a elektra respect thread.

Gem from Phil

You mean Bullseye losing twice against Punisher in close quarters, shows inconsistency in his performances against Punisher

Maybe you don't know remedial comic principles. Maybe I gave you too much credit. The villain is generally going to lose, its not so much if they lose its how they lose. Your first set of scans show Punisher dominating Bullseye. Your second set which I provided the proper context for throughout that whole miniseries, shows Bullseye doing much better against Frank to the point where he had him dead to rights on at least three occasions but decided once to hit him with a paper airplane instead of a bullet, shot him non lethal in the back, and three paralyzed him briefly with a botox dart. Plus their was other instances as I didn't post the entire 5 issue series.

The main thing is that you believe there is no difference between villain getting stomp by opponent or villain accomplishing their goal in a decent fight against same opponent.

Not to mention my first prior post where Lester was dominating Punisher in their first meetings.

Only an idiot would think all those instance are the same.

The funny thing you keep going on about BE studying Elektra and DD like the latter two haven't studied him repeatedly over and over again. When Elektra came back from the dead one of the first things she did was trained to beat BE and not die by him again. You are a such a fool for continuing to challenge me, just wait until I am able to post the scans from my hard drive.

I already showed Daredevil knowing exactly where BE is going to shoot him before Lester even pulls the freaking trigger. And no this wasn't because of his radar sense but b/c he knows Lester combat tactics.

your Elektra scans comes Elektra #2 1996. you keep posting irrelevant scans like we don't know of the many encounter between Elektra and Bullseye. Including DD they have all studied each other, all knows each other tendencies and moves.

lol but please continue to embarrass yourself this is entertaining.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Phil

Moron I mentioned that BE in the past has been able to stalemate both Elektra and DD at the same time. Not that he can do that all the time or even that he is consistently shown to be at the level.

SuperDowney, where has anybody said otherwise? The contention is not that Bullseye has alternating performances against Daredevil and Elektra [which is a given, due to extensive studying of fighting style and adapting from both sides], but the fact that you used that, and compared it to Taskmaster [which he hasn't studied at that level], in order to show that he is inconsistent.

You used the worst argument possible, and now you're having a meltdown because I'm giving you a wedgie.

I legitimately have to find analogies for you to understand.

Imagine a MMA fight, where the opponents study the other's style for months on end. They know their strategies, how they duck, how they hit, how they counter - everything.

Now imagine fighting against somebody entirely new, because the opponent you've studied pulled back out of the fight 3 days before the bout and Dana White had to find a replacement.

If you do well in the first fight, but lose the second fight, it doesn't mean you're inconsistent. It means you prepared well for the first one, and went in blank state for the second.

How much of a shit-licking, flat-brained idiot do you have to be to not understand that?

Bullseye lost both physical fights against the Punisher, and won the range fight. How is that inconsistent, you troglodyte?

Good grief Phil, go back and read his whole post properly. Stop picking the bits you like and ignoring relevant parts of his post.

Originally posted by Deadline
Good grief Phil, go back and read his whole post properly. Stop picking the bits you like and ignoring relevant parts of his post.

lol I'm glad this is apparent to everyone. At this point he is just rambling b/c he has no way out of this con****le of his own making.

He basically came into this thread and proclaimed that water is wet. The rest of us are like of course it is Captain Obvious. But that's not enough for philofshitia. He then compounds it up with scans, that everyone who cares have seen like a hundred times or more. lol Then he shows more scans that continues to prove my point about Bullseye's inconsistency.

Let's start from the beginning, philofshitia stated this:

Originally posted by Philosophía
Bullseye has extensively studied both Elektra and Daredevil, and thus is more adept to fighting them:

What he failed to show is that BE suffers from monomania. He was basically obsessed with Elektra and probably still is. So this wasn't just him training to fight her, this was him like a stalker trying to get every single detail about her life going back to her childhood.

https://imgur.com/a/dtE3V

And this is just more evidence that BE was much better in his early appearances than later on or even currently.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/104794/4515341-screen+shot+2015-04-18+at+4.22.56+pm.jpg

So BE went from beating Matt a couple of times and killing Elektra to knowing deep down that he is not a better fighter then them.

another gem from philofshitia:

The contention is not that Bullseye has alternating performances against Daredevil and Elektra [which is a given, due to extensive studying of fighting style and adapting from both sides], but the fact that you used that, and compared it to Taskmaster [which he hasn't studied at that level], in order to show that he is inconsistent.

First, I like that now it "is a given" to him that BE has been inconsistent against DD and Elektra. Apparently the word inconsistent gets him triggered, guess if I would have used the phrase "alternating performance" this thread would had ended on page 1.

Second, You really shouldn't comment on the street tier. BE and Tasky has never had an actual fight IIRC. The encounter I was referring to is below, where BE smarts off to Tasky and Tasky responds by knocking him on his ass. BE shouldn't have to study Tasky in order not to get punch to the ground and treated like fodder. This has more to do with BE's character portrayal as almost a joke character, he consistently bit off more than he could chew during these issues. TBolts/Dark Avengers was not a kind arc to him to say the least. Again it shows his downward progression, few highs in recent times and many lows.

philofshitia at his best:

You used the worst argument possible, and now you're having a meltdown because I'm giving you a wedgie.

Actually you have done nothing but strengthen my argument. You bringing up Punisher illustrated BE's inconsistency perfectly thanks for that again. You are also very entertaining squirming and backtracking and such. I'm just lmao at you but if you consider that having a meltdown, then yes I'm having many meltdowns at your expense.

more shit

If you do well in the first fight, but lose the second fight, it doesn't mean you're inconsistent. It means you prepared well for the first one, and went in blank state for the second

You tell me how Lester who hadn't even heard of a Punisher, in their first encounter "prepared well" for him. lol The only one in a "blank state" is you. lol Lester actually did his best against Frank when he didn't prepare for him. Kind of goes against everything you wrote above. lol

last turd two dropper

Bullseye lost both physical fights against the Punisher, and won the range fight. How is that inconsistent, you troglodyte?

lol you was so sure that BE had never beaten Frank remember

I mean, if you really want to show inconsistency, you could have shown Bullseye losing to Punisher straight up:
And then in another fight, he inconsistently:
....uh, also loses to Punisher.

Wew.

more like eew. anyway like I attempted to explain to you earlier wins and loses do not matters as much as why. Frank dominate BE on one occasion, BE perform much better as he used Frank to collect a huge pay day on another, and BE dominated Frank in yet a different encounter. The very definition of inconsistency. Besides the fight here is ranged as well. Here's your chance philly to walk away with just a bloody nose and a couple of black eyes, or you can continue and I'll take whats left of your pride.

Range fight is all that matters when the starting distance is 0.5 km... in a featureless environment, to boot.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Plus, Eagle cheated in that fight... and it doesn't help how Lester got shocked by that Thunderbolts tech in his neck...

Cheated? How

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cheated? How

He said first shot was free and Lester actually bought it 😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He said first shot was free and Lester actually bought it 😂

Oh yea lol...BE did get his free shot when AEs back was turned though . what was more impressive is Steel Spider. I have a feeling he would've done better if not for being out numbered

Speaking of spiders, was Black Tarantula depowered when Bullseye beat him in prison? Seems like I remember he was but its been a while since I read that issue. Either way that is a good feat for Lester b/c he dominated him. Of course it would be much more impressive if BT was at his Puny Peter Parker busting levels.