Originally posted by ZenwolfOh I have no doubt that even in an all-out battle, Palps would still beat Vader down. I was just hoping we'd actually see something like that here, but I'm not so sure now. As mentioned, Vader is currently an emotional mess(which, as we know, tends to gimp a Force user's abilities), and he's also just submissively kneeling there with no obvious defenses prepared.
Well Palps has to show superiority, otherwise Vader going to Luke and wanting him to take on the Emperor with him doesn't make a whole lot of sense.Even prior Canon with Vader having notes that he could kill the Emperor, the latter usually still had the edge in some capacity.
Who knows, though? Maybe Vader will collect himself, start raging out, and Palpatine will still proceed to rape him with an array of abilities(aside from just the typical lightning spam)... I'd much rather see that.