Originally posted by Jaggarath
Kreia saying Hord's a better duelist than her and Meetra doesn't mean he's also better than Revan, who is also vastly greater than her and Meetra.Kreia never says Hord is better than anyone of the era.
That’s beyond farcical and you know it. Traya’s point is that they’d be a new class of lightsaber duelist, one the Exile has never seen. Since she was Revan’s right hand, I’m fairly confident she’d have seen his bladework.
The quote is useless and outdated, so there’s plenty of reason to disregard it. That logic is laughable though.
Traya’s point is that they’d be a new class of lightsaber duelist, one the Exile has never seen.
That seems to be your opinion without any substantiation, lmao.
Kreia's quote never elevates the ancient Sith beyond the best of her era, nor anyone of her era except her and Meetra.
At best, you can extrapolate there were more lightsaber virtuosos during the ancient Sith than present day.
Originally posted by JaggarathThat seems to be your opinion without any substantiation, lmao.
Kreia's quote never elevates the ancient Sith beyond the best of her era, nor anyone of her era except her and Meetra.
At best, you can extrapolate there were more lightsaber virtuosos during the ancient Sith than present day.
She indicates that meeting the Ancient Sith in combat would be a revelation, their prowess some sort of surprise.
The fact that her ‘we’ refers to just the two of them and not ‘we’ in terms of her era or order is another ‘opinion without any substantiation’. It’s not clarified either way, and her tone and lexis both suggest my interpretation is the correct one 😬
Originally posted by The Merchant
Nadd isn't confirmed to be a greater sorcerer. Nada goal was to become the greatest sith sorceror but nothing says he actually achieved that. Hord apparently discovered immortality or close to it, that puts him above Nadd.
Except Nadd is stated to know that he'll become the greatest ever, and that all he needs is time. This is proceeded by him becoming far more powerful than Naga Sadow, after learning everything Sadow knew, and finally killing him. Then he spends a century becoming far more powerful and achieving the status of greatest sorcerer.
The ancient Sith basically have their own Banite scaling. Hord is undoubtedly the most impressive ancient Sith up until his time. Ragnos' era was stated to be the golden age of the Sith empire, something they'd achieved mainly through the power and strength of Ragnos. Then we have the fact that the Sith Spirit Council, a council of the greatest dark lords, was led by Ragnos himself.
Then we get Tenebrae; the Sheev of the era, born with supreme power and potential. Mastered by Ragnos himself. Who is soon surpassed by his apprentice, who goes on to become godlike.
What's most impressive, is that from the very beginning we have Muur; Ajunta Pall's Shadow Hand, being superior to 19BBY Vader and Darth Krayt, even in a spiritual form.
Put Hord above Pall, put Nadd above Hord, put Ragnos above Nadd and then put pre-Nathema Tenebrae above Ragnos. Oh, it's sweet.
I like the way you think about the Sith, but I have found that Tulak Hord had a mastery of Sith Magic.
This results in him defeating Nadd due to the fact that he understands Sith Magic just enough to withstand it.
He is a Sith if I might add, they were known to be very knowledgeable in the arts of Sith Magic.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Except again that was Nadds personal belief, nothing suggests he actually became the strongest Sith Sorceror and the newest fluff heavily suggests Hords sorcery>everyone else's barring Vitiate. So idk about all that.
Not it wasn't, the narrator is stating that he 'knows' he will. He knows a fact, is aware of it. It's not just opinion. Re-read the comics. Nadd having knowledge of all techniques presented in sourcebooks and of all knowledge hidden across the galaxy, puts him as easily the most learned Sith there is besides Tenebrae and Kun. In the entire Old Republic era.
I see what's going on here.
We assume Nadd was the best ever Sith but we can't say he's above Ragnos since he can't be... but he has to be above Hord here because he has to be... trust me. Nadd is just right there with Ragnos... probably... weaker Sith than Nadd are above Vader and Krayt. Nadd knows everything.
So we twist some quotes around and wind up with Hord being crazily above all Jedi Kreia could possibly know in dueling. Don't forget Nadd is above Hord. So now that we established Hord is above Revan by proxy (Nadd is super tough), we ask ourselves what Nadd has to do with this?
Let me take a shot in the dark with this and guess that Exar Kun one shotted Nadd like a pussy and people below Nadd are above all of Kun's opposition. That was massively pre prime Exar too. Because of the ease of that and how close Nadd was to Ragnos (trust me), Kun scales way up there. It's Kun's thread now. Gotta ride that Nadd train to "secretly" hype up Kun. The more you convince people that Nadd is the new fad, the easier it is to push Kun harder.
Pretty damn sneaky. What does Nadd actually have to do with the thread though? Dunno, secret Kun wank