Thanos w/o IG vs. Thor w/o SB

Started by quanchi11242 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Huh? I literally said if it's fisticuffs, then Thanos wins. But Thor with his powers and Thanos without stones, the game changes. You also shouldn't use the "favoritism" label when Thanos is involved, just saying.

Thor also happened to be talking about a Thanos who had the Power Stone and the Space Stone, the PS being a weapon capable of destroying all life on a planetary scale. Surely you realize that the Infinity stones increase the users power levels.

See above.

Based off what? He had access to his powers in the film. His own opinion means he believes he stands no chance.

Thanos did not even use any of the stones against the hulk or Thor.

When Thor made that claim about needing a new weapon, Thor knew Thanos now had the Power Stone and Space Stone, making him the most powerful being in the cosmos, being the first being to wield two stones at once, as per Black Maw and Gamora's claims.

Thanos did use the Power Stone against Thor, we literally see it being pressed against his head, causing him pain.

But this match is Thanos without stones, so his feats with stones are irrelevant here.

Originally posted by Robtard
You also shouldn't use the "favoritism" label when Thanos is involved, just saying.

Lmao

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did not say it.

The guys who created the film did. Your obstinacy is further proof of your inherent and petty bias. I did not make the statement you moron. I copy and pasted it. I provided the link. Your dishonesty and stupidity is grating on my nerves.

Provide the quote. At no point will I ever avoid quotes or statements from people creating the films. At no point will I avoid on screen evidence which directly correlates to the on screen statements and showings. I am open to all forms of evidence not just opinion based interpretations deemed incorrect by the men and women making the films.

😂

Ps. Siege-a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.

Forces surround the wakandan nation compelling them to surrender. When they refuse they invade. Same exact tactic will be used in Asgard. Thor will engage as he always does with the same situation here of an invasion of Asgard. We have direct evidence of what his behavior will be while your lies of gee whiz I don’t believe Thor would fight is so disingenuous I am shocked you hit the submit button.

You acting like this situation is any different than Thanos invading Asgard with some asgardians hiding behind a shield making their entry more difficult is laughable.

Uhuh, and when Thor joined the battle in Wakanda, the battle was already taking place in an open field with no structures being attacked or defended. Again, you don't seem to know what a siege is or how context is applied.

And again, regardless of what quotes you come up with, even a kid knows that strong willpower does not equal most powerful.

She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far,” Feige said

^ Well thats that then. Since we go by blanket statements here:

Captain Marvel > Thanos.

And from Feige himself, whose in charge of all the Russos and all the other MCU directors.

Should also strop using Thor's off screen defeat against him. Maybe Thanos did solo his ass without the Power stone as he did Hulk, maybe Thanos used the Stone and had the Black Order assist him.

Here is the interview

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/09/07/captain-marvel-power-affect-mcu-kevin-feige/

Originally posted by Robtard
Should also strop using Thor's off screen defeat against him. Maybe Thanos did solo his ass without the Power stone as he did Hulk, maybe Thanos used the Stone and had the Black Order assist him.

Well in an indoor environment like that and without Mjolnir, I dont really see Thor fairing better than Hulk did. It pretty much would come down to h2h with the possibility of Lightning punches.

That said in an outdoor environment if Thor wants to keep his distance and keep spamming Thanos with Lightning or whipping him up in Tornadoes, I dont really see what Thanos could do about that.

Thanos needs to display more exotic abilities without the stones to prove he could deal with Thors full powerset.

Did Thor make tornadoes? I don't remember that feat

Originally posted by steverules_2
Did Thor make tornadoes? I don't remember that feat

Thor 1, the Destroyer fight.

Ohhh yeah forgot about that

Originally posted by Robtard
When Thor made that claim about needing a new weapon, Thor knew Thanos now had the Power Stone and Space Stone, making him the most powerful being in the cosmos, being the first being to wield two stones at once, as per Black Maw and Gamora's claims.

Thanos did use the Power Stone against Thor, we literally see it being pressed against his head, causing him pain.

But this match is Thanos without stones, so his feats with stones are irrelevant here.

He made the claim after being humiliated in one on one combat against Thanos after he beat the Hulk. Thor used a weapon and a cheapshot.

He is the only one to wielded two stones because his willpower is unrivaled in the cosmos as per the filmmakers.

We know he did not use the stone against Hulk or Thor because it did not light up but the filmmakers were kind enough to spell it out for those unable to keep up with stones lighting up and what the stones are capable of in combat.

Thanos used it to torture him not in one on one combat. Thor jumped him and did not fare well. Thanos did not even budge it was quite humiliating for someone of his strength to fail that spectacularly.

Let us do a quick summary of the facts here.

1. Thanos demonstrates superior strength to Hulk and quickly dispatches him
2. Thor failed to move Thanos despite a weapon and a cheapshot shortly after the Hulk fight
3. Thor admits it is suicide to face Thanos after Rocket makes him admit his defeat at the hands of Thanos without his new Thanos killing weapon
4. Thanos after wading through the rest of the opposition of elites on Wakanda Thor lightning blasts and throws the weapon capable of killing him as hard as he could and still fails to kill Thanos.
5. Out of universe statements confirming Thanos is more polished than Thor in hand to hand combat from the filmmakers involved in the film.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far,” Feige said

BY ALEX GILYADOV Captain Marvel is the MCU's most powerful superhero, according to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/06/captain-marvel-is-the-most-powerful-hero-the-mcu-has-ever-seen

Within the first five minutes of Infinity War, people will understand why Thanos is the biggest and baddest villain in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

https://thebuffgeekpodcastblog.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/kevin-feige-has-given-us-a-teaser-of-thanos-power-levels/

And just wait because we will see how the two match up. It is not going to be Thanos and the Avengers vs. Marvel it is going to be the heroes vs. Thanos. I cannot wait.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Well thats that then. Since we go by blanket statements here:

Captain Marvel > Thanos.

And from Feige himself, whose in charge of all the Russos and all the other MCU directors.

Absurd but we will find out. Next year. Best part is Thanos is the villain the guy lol the heroes are teaming up with to battle. Cannot wait to rub it in your face. She is the most powerful hero Thanos is the most powerful villain. Let us find out who is more powerful in the next film when they collide. Bet she has a lot of help, kiddo.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Uhuh, and when Thor joined the battle in Wakanda, the battle was already taking place in an open field with no structures being attacked or defended. Again, you don't seem to know what a siege is or how context is applied.

And again, regardless of what quotes you come up with, even a kid knows that strong willpower does not equal most powerful.

It is an invasion. They are there to acquire the final stone. They refused to give it up they are being invaded. Thor ran to the front of the battle so when Asgard is being attacked he will react the same as he has always done. You tried to turn Thor into someone who hides from combat and ignore the feats and entire history of the character.

Google it they lay siege but nah here goes.

the act or process of surrounding and attacking a fortified place in such a way as to isolate it from help and supplies, for the purpose of lessening the resistance of the defenders and thereby making capture possible.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/siege

They are there to capture the stone. They invade a forcefield protected shield. Did Thor attack those Outriders and ships from a safe distance behind it who has not breached with long ranged lightning attacks or rush into battle and fight how he always does.

If you cannot be honest about this or Thor is eager for battle and will not hide from combat in an effort to turn him into something or someone Loki like I am going to destroy you with multiple instances of Thor doing just what I claimed while you do not have one single piece of evidence to back your claim.

Your imagination is not proof. You need to prove your claims with examples.

Originally posted by quanchi112
BY ALEX GILYADOV Captain Marvel is the MCU's most powerful superhero, according to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/06/captain-marvel-is-the-most-powerful-hero-the-mcu-has-ever-seen

[B]Within the first five minutes of Infinity War, people will understand why Thanos is the biggest and baddest villain in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

https://thebuffgeekpodcastblog.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/kevin-feige-has-given-us-a-teaser-of-thanos-power-levels/

And just wait because we will see how the two match up. It is not going to be Thanos and the Avengers vs. Marvel it is going to be the heroes vs. Thanos. I cannot wait. [/B]

Nope, this is what Feige said: “She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far,” Feige said."

And since you're so determined to take interview statements like these as blanket facts then we now know Captain Marvel is greater than Thanos. Especially when Feige's word > Russo's word

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is an invasion. They are there to acquire the final stone. They refused to give it up they are being invaded. Thor ran to the front of the battle so when Asgard is being attacked he will react the same as he has always done. You tried to turn Thor into someone who hides from combat and ignore the feats and entire history of the character.

Google it they lay siege but nah here goes.

the act or process of surrounding and attacking a fortified place in such a way as to isolate it from help and supplies, for the purpose of lessening the resistance of the defenders and thereby making capture possible.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/siege

They are there to capture the stone. They invade a forcefield protected shield. Did Thor attack those Outriders and ships from a safe distance behind it who has not breached with long ranged lightning attacks or rush into battle and fight how he always does.

If you cannot be honest about this or Thor is eager for battle and will not hide from combat in an effort to turn him into something or someone Loki like I am going to destroy you with multiple instances of Thor doing just what I claimed while you do not have one single piece of evidence to back your claim.

Your imagination is not proof. You need to prove your claims with examples.

Dude, you just keep making yourself look like a fool. Why would Thor have teleported himself inside the walls of Wakanda when his friends were already dying out in the field? Of course he would go out there to save them. That's a completely different scenario from Thanos's forces invading Asgard. You're asking Thor to behave out of character.

Again, Thor never took part of a siege. By the time he got there it was already war in an open battlefield.

The claim that Thanos is the strongest villain ever isn't absolutely correct either. Thanos without the stones would get shit-stomped by the dimension conquering, galaxy eating entity Dormammu

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nope, this is what Feige said: “She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far,” Feige said."

And since you're so determined to take interview statements like these as blanket facts then we now know Captain Marvel is greater than Thanos. Especially when Feige's word > Russo's word

Thanos is the biggest and baddest villain ever according to Feige. I posted the link showing it said she was the most powerful super hero ever. We can bet on this who looks better when they square off in avengers 4. She will teaming up with Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, etc. against Thanos. We can bet on it.

No, power levels alone do not account for other aspects of combat formability. This is basic logic like Superman being more powerful than WW but she is more skilled and is strong enough to hurt/defeat/kill Superman. Being more powerful does not mean unbeatable though in one on one combat Thanos has been described as unbeatable. Lucky for the heroes they will be a collective unit against Thanos.