The Eternals (2021)

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But doesn't

Spoiler:
Starfox say something like "Greetings, my fellow Eternals"? Or I don't remember it right?

It's a complicated matter, even in comics. Originally, they were different creatures. Then they were retconned to being one race, but there are still some differences between them. That's why there's no telling what they'll decide for MCU.

Actually you're right, he does.

I don't know. Unless it comes out that the whole "they're just constructs" thing isn't what it was said to be.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think they're already being treated as such, given Thanos's comments in Infinity War. They could retcon it, obviously, so who knows. It'll be interesting to see what Starfox will get up to with the Eternals he approached.

Thanos' comments alone do not pose any problem.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Actually you're right, he does.

I don't know. Unless it comes out that the whole "they're just constructs" thing isn't what it was said to be.

But this whole "android" thing certainly does.

Guess we have no other choice but to wait and see where they want to go with it now...

Love it or hate it, Eternals achieved one thing - people are talking about it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thanos' comments alone do not pose any problem.

But this whole "android" thing certainly does.

Guess we have no other choice but to wait and see where they want to go with it now...

Love it or hate it, Eternals achieved one thing - people are talking about it.

I meant because Thanos said he comes from an actual planet, with actual people on it. Or at least implied it. Sure, a clever writer could get around it, but the suggestion I got from it was that he was speaking like he was a guy from a planet of relatively normal people.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I meant because Thanos said he comes from an actual planet, with actual people on it. Or at least implied it. Sure, a clever writer could get around it, but the suggestion I got from it was that he was speaking like he was a guy from a planet of relatively normal people.

Planet or moon, it doesn't matter - Titanians travelled there hundreds of thousands years ago in comics.

We know nothing about MCU Titan origins, so there is nothing blocking writers from finding connections to Eternals and Celestials --- as was done in comics. Despite the original intentions to keep them separate.

What is somewhat problematic is, again, the revealed nature of the Earth Eternals group in the movie. Yes, that doesn't go well with Titans, who appeared to live their own lives, free of programming and "higher purpose" defined by Celestials.

I wouldn't even bring up this subject (well, certainly not as stubbornly, at least), if not for the middle-credits scene.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Planet or moon, it doesn't matter - Titanians travelled there hundreds of thousands years ago in comics.

We know nothing about MCU Titan origins, so there is nothing blocking writers from finding connections to Eternals and Celestials --- as was done in comics. Despite the original intentions to keep them separate.

What is somewhat problematic is, again, the revealed nature of the Earth Eternals group in the movie. Yes, that doesn't go well with Titans, who appeared to live their own lives, free of programming and "higher purpose" defined by Celestials.

I wouldn't even bring up this subject (well, certainly not as stubbornly, at least), if not for the middle-credits scene.

I dunno. Either way I feel like something has to be retconned or at the very least given the "umm, actually" treatment for it to work.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not a fan of simplifying things like that, but I could see it happening.

Same with Eternity and Living Tribunal, who already were confirmed to exist in MCU.

With Ego, it's easy enough to explain that exception, considering the Celestial birth process in MCU. "Living Planet? Close enough".

Same, but Disney knows that probably around 80-90% of MCU watchers are not comic book educated. So the little intricacies and backstories people like us know, they don't. So they have to make it simpler to story build.

Those too could fall under a "Celestial" moniker too.

As Ego explained it, he was formless for millions of years until he learned to form a shell around himself that eventually became a planet. But yeah, I don't think it's a hard stretch to link him with the Celestials. They could just say that "Celestial" means any being of god-like power.

Forget where I saw it, but concept art for Infinity War showed a younger Thanos with his family, he was noticeably larger than they were, but they'd still be huge by human standards, they were of a pink hue and didn't have the chin lines.

So Thanos being a mutant among his own race is a possibility, should they ever need to touch back on that, or mention mutations when they fold the X-Men into the MCU. I doubt it though, Thanos is now MCU history.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I dunno. Either way I feel like something has to be retconned or at the very least given the "umm, actually" treatment for it to work.

I just find it unlikely that it's a mere coincidence

Spoiler:
Starfox

A company like Disney shouldn't be interested in introducing the ultimate sexual predator and - as Starlin confirmed recently - a sociopath - to the audience, don't you think? Unless they have a damn good reason and considered his ties to Eternals.

I imagine we could find out that Earth Eternals-robots were based on/inspired by Titans, who got Celestials' attention at some point of their history? Just one of the many possible explanations.

Originally posted by Robtard
Same, but Disney knows that probably around 80-90% of MCU watchers are not comic book educated. So the little intricacies and backstories people like us know, they don't. So they have to make it simpler to story build.

Those too could fall under a "Celestial" moniker too.

As Ego explained it, he was formless for millions of years until he learned to form a shell around himself that eventually became a planet. But yeah, I don't think it's a hard stretch to link him with the Celestials. They could just say that "Celestial" means any being of god-like power.

See, here lies the problem. MCU - at this point - is already pretty complicated. And they keep adding more layers to it (multiverse is a nice example of that). Oversimplifying things just doesn't work in their favour, not anymore. Imo, at least.

They could. If Ego was a Celestial, then why not every other cosmic entity? That kind of logic, yes. We shall see if they choose to go with it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Forget where I saw it, but concept art for Infinity War showed a younger Thanos with his family, he was noticeably larger than they were, but they'd still be huge by human standards, they were of a pink hue and didn't have the chin lines.

So Thanos being a mutant among his own race is a possibility, should they ever need to touch back on that, or mention mutations when they fold the X-Men into the MCU. I doubt it though, Thanos is now MCU history.

Spoiler:
Starfox, Thanos' brother

If they decide to explain how Thanos is a Titan Eternal with a Deviant gene... then a new question arises, heh... why Eternals didn't intervene again? 😂

That's part of the films now, no need for spoilers?

It think it will be "adopted brother" and he's an Eternal. Also, iirc, when Thanos did the flash back to how Titan looked before the collapse in IF before the battle, the other Titans in the background looked mostly like him in stature, right, or was a far off shot and they could be smaller?

Lol, yeah. They better just stick with "mutation", cos if the other Titans really do look like normal humans, making Thanos part Deviant would muddy the waters even more

IMO, the Thanos(Titans) and Eternals connection will just be the adopted family aspect, which gels with the comics.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's part of the films now, no need for spoilers?

I found it's better to use them for too long than to stop using them too early.

It began streaming on Disney Plus like 10 days ago and then there are guys like Leech, who only saw the first half 😛

Originally posted by Robtard
It think it will be "adopted brother" and he's an Eternal. Also, iirc, when Thanos did the flash back to how Titan looked before the collapse in IF before the battle, the other Titans in the background looked mostly like him in stature, right, or was a far off shot and they could be smaller?

I don't think there's any actual proof they were bigger than humans - other than the concept art you've mentioned.

I wouldn't use this screencap as evidence, it's a brief scene and it can be handwaved as the reality gem messing with our perception:

https://i.ibb.co/pR0hbQ8/Thanos-da-a-conocer-el-pasado-de-***-n.png

Maybe they're all just tall, like fantasy elves? Harry Styles is not exactly short, either.

Even then, it would be easier to argue that Starfox was simply small by Titanian standards and that Thanos was the adopted one.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lol, yeah. They better just stick with "mutation", cos if the other Titans really do look like normal humans, making Thanos part Deviant would muddy the waters even more

The original Infinity Gauntlet story had plenty of cosmic entities (including Celestials, well, two of them - TOAA and Ziran) facing Thanos --- something I really hoped we would see in the Endgame, alas, we didn't.

So we can expect these "why didn't character xxx come to help during the events of IW/EG" questions won't stop any time soon.

Originally posted by Robtard
IMO, the Thanos(Titans) and Eternals connection will just be the adopted family aspect, which gels with the comics.

Might take a good while to get the answers, especially if Eternals don't get a sequel.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I just find it unlikely that it's a mere coincidence

Spoiler:
Starfox

showed up and greeted Eternals this way.

A company like Disney shouldn't be interested in introducing the ultimate sexual predator and - as Starlin confirmed recently - a sociopath - to the audience, don't you think? Unless they have a damn good reason and considered his ties to Eternals.

I imagine we could find out that Earth Eternals-robots were based on/inspired by Titans, who got Celestials' attention at some point of their history? Just one of the many possible explanations.

Yeah. I do think it's funny too that the MCU is starting to realise (and be affected by) just how convoluted comics continuity can get.