Sersi Vs Selene

I knew I wasn't crazy. Doctor Doom and the Masters of Evil is canon. It was just done in a lighthearted style so younger audiences could enjoy it. It was pretty solid overall though. Managed to get Doom right.

Tobin wrote some of the Marvel Adventures line, so some folks got confused. He was asked in an interview how it felt writing for the mainstream Marvel universe when he wrote the series.
The lineups for some of the teams involved differs from the Adventures universe too.

Additionally, he confirmed it in a tweet.
https://postimg.cc/JDBjDXDJ

So Selene did slap Magneto and Doom around.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I knew I wasn't crazy. Doctor Doom and the Masters of Evil is canon. It was just done in a lighthearted style so younger audiences could enjoy it. It was pretty solid overall though. Managed to get Doom right.

Tobin wrote some of the Marvel Adventures line, so some folks got confused. He was asked in an interview how it felt writing for the mainstream Marvel universe when he wrote the series.
The lineups for some of the teams involved differs from the Adventures universe too.

Additionally, he confirmed it in a tweet.
https://postimg.cc/JDBjDXDJ

So Selene did slap Magneto and Doom around.

It's a glorified wiki. Seriously, you can, right now, apply to be on the team. That appendix is done by regular people with dayjobs. It's impressive, and a great resource to start from, but it's by no means comprehensive, which they admit to themselves. They even list corrections and additions on the pages.

And there's a reason we don't typically use handbooks here, as the information isn't always accurate. They said Kimura can phase...

If you think it's been retconned, you'll need to point to the comic or event that did so. Some people overlooking an already obscure mini series doesn't make it non-canon.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's a glorified wiki. Seriously, you can, right now, apply to be on the team. That appendix is done by regular people with dayjobs. It's impressive, and a great resource to start from, but it's by no means comprehensive, which they admit to themselves. They even list corrections and additions on the pages.

And there's a reason we don't typically use handbooks here, as the information isn't always accurate. They said Kimura can phase...

If you think it's been retconned, you'll need to point to the comic or event that did so. Some people overlooking an already obscure mini series doesn't make it non-canon.

The Doom and Masters of Evil events are not in Selene's entry and they cover her canon appearances up till 2010.

Also you posted links to a writer's comments that are viewed exactly as Handbook entries are here on the forum.

Originally posted by zopzop
Glorified wiki my @$$, did you not see the Official Handbook Entry page from Marvel that I posted? Marvel itself uses the site as a reference for their handbook entries.

The Doom and Masters of Evil events are not in Selene's entry and they cover her canon appearances up till 2010.

Also you posted links to a writer's comments that are viewed exactly as Handbook entries are here on the forum.

They cover the appearances they know of. 2010 is the simply the latest appearance the author can point to. It doesn't mean he nailed all her previous appearances, which, again, they admit to.

Writer's comments are irrelevant when they contradict feats or events of a comic, which Tobin's doesn't. If he said Selene solo'd the Avengers beforehand, then yeah, we'd disregard his statement. That was never shown on panel, so we can't use it. Tobin stating it is canon is just him stating a fact. If you think it is no longer in continuity, then cool, show me the retcon.

Are we going to assume everything absent from that wiki is suddenly non-canon?

Originally posted by StyleTime
That doesn't conflict with what I said. No one has full knowledge of an entire universe just on hand. They reference the site because, like most wikis, it's a great starting point. It's not infallible, and they have also had to, literally, issue corrections later because the information isn't 100% complete or accurate.

They cover the appearances they know of. 2010 is the simply the latest appearance the author can point to. It doesn't mean he nailed all her previous appearances, which, again, they admit to.

Writer's comments are irrelevant when they contradict feats or events of a comic, which Tobin's doesn't. If he said Selene solo'd the Avengers beforehand, then yeah, we'd disregard his statement. That was never shown on panel, so we can't use it. Tobin stating it is canon is just him stating a fact. If you think it is no longer in continuity, then cool, show me the retcon.

Are we going to assume everything absent from that wiki is suddenly non-canon?

It's entirely possible they weren't aware of it, similar to most folks here. Or they confused it with Tobin's Marvel Adventures work, which has also happened. The last handbook featured additions/corrections to old entries, so they don't catch everything.

I can't pinpoint the exact reason without talking to them directly, but there's explanations other than a silent retcon.