Virtue signalling a term used by the far right to try and shame morality.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Does anyone here, aside from DMB, have an issue with this?

A decent part of Jesus's ministry was spent calling out the Pharisees for virtue signaling. He even told a parable where he was calling out the person praying to God spending the entire prayer virtue signaling about how much better they are than everyone else.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame actually had a decent characterization of that with Frollo.

Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I'm going to speak out in the defense of the behavior of all Christians, or the Church, when they do something I disagree with on a principle level.

Originally posted by Surtur
How do you feel about adults pressuring an 8 yr. old to drink the blood of a deity?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Well clearly that affects me, because I find it disgusting, oh you mean drink wine and eat wafers... No probs at all.

A sip won't hurt anyone.

Now, giving pure horse raddish to an eight year old, that should be child abuse (My god, did it hurt.)

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I'd say some truth to what you say, they are a counter-culture, but more like Oi or the British Skinhead movement than Hippies because the Rightist youth have been indoctrinated with an old trick, they been given folk devils to hate. As a result, their morality has been subverted, and compassion is seen as weak. Political correctness isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the opposite, it's an agreement of basic moral boundaries replacing the codes of religion at the basic level. Thou shalt not call someone a ******, not because you'll go to hell but because the collectively accepted rules of the culture say it's wrong. Except, the kids are told you can say what you want; this, is counter to societies hidden socialisation anyway - as from the moment we are old enough we are told calling people names etc. is wrong, for obvious reasons. But if you hammer home the idea someone is below you, someone is out to get you; someone is stupid, stupid people will believe it. The Rhetoric of these kids is different to the counterculture inspired by young people finding they had freedom and money for the first time. This is more like Moseley or Enoch Powell, even dare I say it, like the Hitler youth for these people, they've been told up is down, and bad is good.

I can't really disagree with you so you make a good argument.

The difference between these anti-PC people and the hippies:

The hippies were preaching a message of individual choice, love, and peace.

The anti-PC peeps are preaching a message of "let me hate and stop trying to silence my hate."

Both are about freedom, yes. But one is hate and one is love.

Since I'm a filthy hippie, can't say I resonate with the people who want to use the n-word and not get sanctioned for it.

Anti-PC encompasses more than just people that want to use the N word. hell, even Bill Maher is anti-PC.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Anti-PC encompasses more than just people that want to use the N word. hell, even Bill Maher is anti-PC.

Yeah I'm not sure why it's complicated lol, being anti PC isn't automatically about wanting to be "hateful" and have people not say anything about it.

This day and age just going "we don't live in a rape culture" could be seen as some as not being PC. I'd love an explanation as to how that is hateful.

Wait: an explanation by someone who is sane. Not some crazed feminist who feels acknowledging facts is hateful.

In the end no: being anti-pc is not about wanting to be a dick and have nobody say anything about it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Anti-PC encompasses more than just people that want to use the N word. hell, even Bill Maher is anti-PC.

True.

I was overgeneralizing because I was being sassy.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah I'm not sure why it's complicated lol, being anti PC isn't automatically about wanting to be "hateful" and have people not say anything about it.

This day and age just going "we don't live in a rape culture" could be seen as some as not being PC. I'd love an explanation as to how that is hateful.

Wait: an explanation by someone who is sane. Not some crazed feminist who feels acknowledging facts is hateful.

In the end no: being anti-pc is not about wanting to be a dick and have nobody say anything about it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Both are about freedom, yes. But one is hate and one is love.

True freedom for all means freedom for the hateful to be hateful.

Even though I consider myself liberal and easy going, I do find some of my beliefs about where society should go stray into Orwellian territory at times, which gives me a chuckle and then I'm right back to being easy going. It's fun finding out where the edges are.

Originally posted by dadudemon
True.

I was overgeneralizing because I was being sassy.

For example some would say "illegal immigrant" is not PC, and yet it's not inherently a hateful thing to say.

Originally posted by Surtur
For example some would say "illegal immigrant" is not PC, and yet it's not inherently a hateful thing to say.

That is not the point. Semantics frame how we think. Choosing language that is not neutral prejudices the discussion. It poisons the well. And as has been explained to you before, the term is not even correct.

Neutral language ftw. We should stop using the term murder because it clearly has a negative rather than neutral connotation, we should instead use "the ending of someone else's life not in self-defense"

Also when people talk about illegal immigration, I'm pretty sure most of them are arguing in the context of people who are not legally allowed to be here, not in the context of whatever UN refugee law you can pull up that applies to the vast vast minority of "undocumented" immigrants.

I've heard that apparently Mormons, of all people, use this phrase.

Originally posted by samhain
True freedom for all means freedom for the hateful to be hateful.

I agree and I hold that position. But that is not what the Hippies were after.

The people who become Trumpers were just sick and tired of being made to feel bad about their racism and bigotry after 8 long years of Obama in the White House. Now they feel like they can truly be themselves again.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Neutral language ftw. We should stop using the term murder because it clearly has a negative rather than neutral connotation, we should instead use "the ending of someone else's life not in self-defense"

How can you Strawman if you haven't got a brain?

Originally posted by Robtard
The people who become Trumpers were just sick and tired of being made to feel bad about their racism and bigotry after 8 long years of Obama in the White House. Now they feel like they can truly be themselves again.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How can you Strawman if you haven't got a brain?

Virtue signalling is the preoccupation of people without virtues or values.

Or any dignity and honesty.

Basically it's like tweeting out to the world that you're a massive egotistical **** and you are sooooo special.