Originally posted by Nibedicus
Her hand durability outside of Asgard > Mjolnir.Mjolnir > Destroyer beam.
She palms Destroyer beam and shoves it back into its face.
Her hand isn't more durable than Mjolnir. An Asgardian sword would stab right through it.
And you must prove she can even think of such a tactic.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Her hand isn't more durable than Mjolnir.2. An Asgardian sword would stab right through it.
3. And you must prove she can even think of such a tactic.
1. I have direct proof that her hand > Mjolnir when she EASILY crushed it. Do you think a less durable object with far less thickness can easily crush a more durable object?
2. False Equivalence. An Asgardian sword can stab thru a lot of stuff. Do you have proof that Destroyer beam > Asgardian sword in terms of penetration?
3. Easy. She has been shown to catch/palm her opponent’s main attack (Mjolnir) to prove her superiority. She likes to show off. Catching the Destroyer beam with her palm is 100% in line with how she acts. It is not a difficult tactic to figure out if Thor managed to think of it.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. I have direct proof that her hand > Mjolnir when she EASILY crushed it. Do you think a less durable object with far less thickness can easily crush a more durable object?2. False Equivalence. An Asgardian sword can stab thru a lot of stuff. Do you have proof that Destroyer beam > Asgardian sword in terms of penetration?
3. Easy. She has been shown to catch/palm her opponent’s main attack (Mjolnir) to prove her superiority. She likes to show off. Catching the Destroyer beam with her palm is 100% in line with how she acts. It is not a difficult tactic to figure out if Thor managed to think of it.
1. Wrong! The feat does not prove that her hand is more durable than Mjolnir.
2. An Asgardian sword can not stab through Mjolnir.
3. I disagree. She would try to use her cape (assuming it is effective). It's an extremely difficult tactic to figure out.
Well considering she probably ly knows much more about the destroyer than Thor I don't see why not...
And I kinda get the sword vs beam vs palm argument, they're all three different things though, kind of a rock paper scissors thing.
A sword could not cut through mjolnir, and I don't think she's more durable per second than mjolnir, her strength is just immense. I don't know, I'm not a science whiz. I have no idea how that shit works.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Wrong! The feat does not prove that her hand is more durable than Mjolnir.2. An Asgardian sword can not stab through Mjolnir.
3. I disagree. She would try to use her cape (assuming it is effective). It's an extremely difficult tactic to figure out.
1. Yes it does. You do know that you have to present an actual argument other than “nuh uh!”?
2. False Equivalence. Red Herring. Sword has no relevance to the discussion. /yawn
3. I have direct proof that shows she palming someone’s attack and then using it to disable her opponent (in Thor’s case, she used it to stop Mjolnir and to strip him of his primary method of attack). You have no argument.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Yes it does. You do know that you have to present an actual argument other than “nuh uh!”?2. False Equivalence. Red Herring. Sword has no relevance to the discussion. /yawn
3. I have direct proof that shows she palming someone’s attack and then using it to disable her opponent (in Thor’s case, she used it to stop Mjolnir and to strip him of his primary method of attack). You have no argument.
1. She was easily stabbed through with an Asgardian sword. The Mjolnir feat is either partly plot or an outlier that plays no role in her forum stats.
2. If a sword can stab through her and not through Mjolnir then that tells you how her durability stacks up to Mjolnir's.
3. That's not direct proof. It shows her catching a physical blunt object, not an energy beam. Per character, she blocks energy beams with her cape and also uses evasive movement to avoid them.
Originally posted by h1a81. You mean when she got stabbed in the chest and back? Well good thing she isn’t using her chest and back to block the Destroyer beam then.
1. She was easily stabbed through with an Asgardian sword. The Mjolnir feat is either partly plot or an outlier that plays no role in her forum stats.2. If a sword can stab through her and not through Mjolnir then that tells you how her durability stacks up to Mjolnir's.
3. That's not direct proof. It shows her catching a physical blunt object, not an energy beam. Per character, she blocks energy beams with her cape and also uses evasive movement to avoid them.
When using her arms/hand she seems to have different durability levels as when she blocked Gungir with her arms, something that easily bypassed her armor/durability.
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And when she blocked Valkyrie’s sword, grabs it by the blade and tosses her.
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2. See above.
3. Her doing X does not prove that X is the only thing she does. Especially when she also palmed a lightning blast from Thor in the bridge fight.
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Her using her hand to palm attacks is a valid defensive tactic. It has been shown on more than one occasion so it is 100% not an outlier showing or an outlier “feat”.
So nope I got direct proof. You got nothing.
Originally posted by Nevan
There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.
Funny how writers intentions only come into play when they suit h1a8.