Hela vs Destroyer

Started by juggerman12 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Those ships look like they were made of wood. There is no way one should think that Sif's sword couldn't penetrate those ships.
You are really reaching here. I guess Hela's blades explode on impact when connecting with wood now 😂

Do you have any proof whatsoever that Sif's blades can do that or are you just pulling more nonsense out ya butt?

Did the ship Thor and company escape on also look like it was made out of wood when Hela impaled that too? 😂

Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Hela could have had ties to Mjolnir to achieve the feat.
2. That could be a low showing for Mjolnir since Hela displayed no other strength feat even in the 10% range of that feat (assuming it was all strength). Therefore, going by all her other showings and Mjolnir peak showings then she can't crush Mjolnir.

The point is we don't know without feats. Someone just can't claim Hela's blades are as durable or more durable than Sif's sword without proof.

Those ships look like they were made of wood. There is no way one should think that Sif's sword couldn't penetrate those ships.

Post proof or your speculation will be labeled as trolling and ignored.

Originally posted by juggerman
You are really reaching here. I guess Hela's blades explode on impact when connecting with wood now 😂

Do you have any proof whatsoever that Sif's blades can do that or are you just pulling more nonsense out ya butt?

Did the ship Thor and company escape on also look like it was made out of wood when Hela impaled that too? 😂

The original argument is that since Sif's sword penetrated the Destroyer (it actually went through a slit) then Hela's blades can too.

You are changing the goalposts. The argument is about penetration ability, not explosion ability.

For all we know those ships could have had engines or devices that explode if penetrated. Asgardians didn't explode, nor did anything else Hela hit her blades with.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

Please stop flaming. Nothing I said is wrong here. Did you even read my posts THOROUGHLY?

You haven't posted any proof to back up your speculation, therefore it's being labeled as trolling, as such it's being ignored.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You haven't posted any proof to back up your speculation, therefore it's being labeled as trolling, as such it's being ignored.

If you think I made a legitimate claim that actually needs to be proven and I didn't then you are free to ignore the supposed claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you think I made a legitimate claim that actually needs to be proven and I didn't then you are free to ignore the supposed claim.

Are you illiterate?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Speculative, thus irrelevant and thus ignored.

2. Wrong. She crushed it thus she can. The showing excuse only works if she has no showing of crushing Mjolnir, w/c she does. Or if she has showings contradicting it, w/c she doesn’t. Thus Hela pimp hand > Destroyer beam. /thread.

1. Hela using only strength to crush Mjolnir is speculative as well. Is it irrelevant and must be ignored?

2. My mistake. I meant that she can't crush Mjolnir with strength alone.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you illiterate?

No! You used speculation as if it means claim. Speculation doesn't need to be proven. Otherwise it wouldn't be speculation.

When you're using speculation in a debate, it does need to be proven. Otherwise it gets labeled as trolling and ignored.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Hela using only strength to crush Mjolnir is speculative as well. Is it irrelevant and must be ignored?

2. My mistake. I meant that she can't crush Mjolnir with strength alone.

1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.

I am still laughing at the Asgardian ships are made from wood claim. Because wood produces screeching metal sounds and sparks when grinding against rock:

YouTube video

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I am still laughing at the Asgardian ships are made from wood claim. Because wood produces screeching metal sounds and sparks when grinding against rock:

Or the fact that they look entirely metal up close.

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h1 is trying to outdo his usual idiocy, but he’s just sucked so badly in the past that I don’t think it’s actually possible anymore.

Originally posted by h1a8
My mistake. I meant that she can't crush Mjolnir with strength alone.
This is a positive claim, you either prove it or it gets dismissed.

Originally posted by Nevan
This is a positive claim, you either prove it or it gets dismissed.

She showed no strength within 10% of crushing a peak Mjolnir with strength only. All of her showings show that she is far weaker.

Therefore it's either an outlier or its because she has ties to Mjolnir (like Odin did).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I am still laughing at the Asgardian ships are made from wood claim. Because wood produces screeching metal sounds and sparks when grinding against rock:

YouTube video

In one scene they appear to be floating wooden boat like ships.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.

Mjolnir was once hers. She probably has ties to it.
If she used only strength to crush Mjolnir then it must be thrown out as an outlier. Just like supergirls key feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
When you're using speculation in a debate, it does need to be proven. Otherwise it gets labeled as trolling and ignored.

If speculation is proven then it no longer is speculation.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.

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H1 is not worthy of respect.

Kinda depends, Hela hasn't really shown to have the same kind of damage output that Thor has, besides crushing Mjolnir. And stabbing the Destroyer probably won't do anything. At best, it would probably be an endless stalemate, at worst Hela somehow shatters the Destroyer past the point it can repair itself.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

👆

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Kinda depends, Hela hasn't really shown to have the same kind of damage output that Thor has, besides crushing Mjolnir. And stabbing the Destroyer probably won't do anything. At best, it would probably be an endless stalemate, at worst Hela somehow shatters the Destroyer past the point it can repair itself.
Did you not see her attack Surtur? She was a lot more powerful than Thor. No question.