Avenatti wants to be believed, who do we believe?

Who is dancing? The claim is what is being investigated. You are operating with a false equivalency, that for things to be fair, both sides need to be investigated. But there are no sides. There is only the interest of society in protecting the rights of individuals. That involves following procedures to ensure that no one—be it the accuser, society, or the accused—is unduly deprived of liberty. That means investigating a claim, and following the evidence. It is not a sport, where we vet teams.

You are absolutely incorrect, there are two sides the accused and the accuser. That doesn't mean our justice system should be based on either side but they do exist.

None of the individuals that she used as witnesses supported her story, her previous BF of nearly a decade wrote in to decry many of her alleged PTSD problems.

He was vetted 6 times prior, now do you want to talk about Avanetti or change your diapers and cry about how Ford wasn't held to the same standard as the accused?

Adam, Why has this conversation divulged into Kavanaugh, hes was investigated 7 times now. Hes never has a single charge filed against him anywhere at anytime for anything.

This was about Avenatii's latest mess hes stepped in and the double standard his followers and people in the media set for him

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Im not worried, this situation is interesting to me. So I thought I would talk about it.

If you want maybe you can help me answer my question on why he has become so popular among the left and anti trump people when hes literally the same person if not worse. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the situation.

Clarity would help

His popularity comes from his ability to make Trump rage and Twitter storm like an idiot at 5:30 in the morning.

The Right/Trumpers like to paint Avenatti as little more than a 'sleazy porn lawyer' and Daniels as little more than a 'sleazy porn star', fine, yet Trump's using the platform of the POTUS to actually fight with these people in schoolyard fashion.

Do I want him as President though? No.

Hollywood reporter isnt some bastion of conservatism.

Companies Once Owned by Michael Avenatti Owe Millions in Unpaid Taxes and Judgments (Report)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/companies-owned-by-michael-avenatti-owe-millions-unpaid-taxes-report-1154103

This alone should be enough for him to lose 200k followers and the media stop putting on TV, he actually owes the IRS millions for unpaid taxes unlike Trump who doesnt have any outstanding tax debt.

But yet people still will watch this guy, eat it up, because he hurls bombs at Trump.

Its complete hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Robtard
His popularity comes from his ability to make Trump rage and Twitter storm like an idiot at 5:30 in the morning.

The Right/Trumpers like to paint Avenatti as little more than a 'sleazy porn lawyer' and Daniels as little more than a 'sleazy porn star', fine, yet Trump's using the platform of the POTUS to actually fight with these people in schoolyard fashion.

Do I want him as President though? No.

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But what I dont get is the same people that get mad at Trump for fcking Stormy Daniels are the ones praising her for saying she did.

Or Avenatii saying a white man can only beat Trump.

I cant square these things with his following and media fawning on him, hes literally Trump light on the left.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
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But what I dont get is the same people that get mad at Trump for fcking Stormy Daniels are the ones praising her for saying she did.

Or Avenatii saying a white man can only beat Trump.

I cant square these things with his following and media fawning on him, hes literally Trump light on the left.

I don't know of anyone who is "mad" at Trump for paying Stormy Daniels for sex. Except for maybe Melania.

Wasn't aware he said that, but sadly that could have some truth in the politics of right now.

He's charismatic, but he's a gimmick.

Edit: Not sure why I have that sleeping face above/

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"The Left" called for an investigation into the allegations against of Kavanaugh. That is the definition of due process. It was Republicans who wanted to shield him from the process, almost like they were worried about what might be discovered. Weird.

The left also said they believed Ford before an investigation was even done. Try again.

Lol multiple events that the Vermont Democrat Party had scheduled to feature Avenatti have now been cancelled and tickets are being refunded. Womp womp.

Originally posted by Surtur
The left also said they believed Ford before an investigation was even done. Try again.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's irrelevant, since they wanted an investigation and had to fight tooth and nail to get one. Republicans fought against on. Now if the Dems had said "we believe her, hang him without due process", you'd have a point. But that didn't happen, so you don't have a point.

Nah, it's not irrelevant. They believed her without any evidence or investigation. Do better.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know of anyone who is "mad" at Trump for paying Stormy Daniels for sex. Except for maybe Melania.

Wasn't aware he said that, but sadly that could have some truth in the politics of right now.

He's charismatic, but he's a gimmick.

Edit: Not sure why I have that sleeping face above/

Avenatti is mad, he has continously said that Trump should resign, then she put out a sketch of ther person who "threatned her" and that person looked like her boyfriend.

Avenatii keeps pressing the issue that "Trump had unprotected sex with my client and he should resign."

I can show you the clip of him saying it over and over.

Also all the people that went ballistic in the media are mad about it.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol multiple events that the Vermont Democrat Party had scheduled to feature Avenatti have now been cancelled and tickets are being refunded. Womp womp.

Got a link?

Hell once they got their investigation they still whined and acted like people should believe her based on her word. Democrats even said they were gonna investigate the FBI if they won the house(which they did win so..)

Stow the dumb bullshit about them being about due process. They are not. This is not the hill you should want to die on.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nah, it's not irrelevant. They believed her without any evidence or investigation. Do better.

No, it is irrelevant as they wanted an investigation.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Got a link?

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/416827-vermont-democrats-cancel-events-with-michael-avenatti-after-reports-of-his

Originally posted by Robtard
No, it is irrelevant as they wanted an investigation.

They got an investigation and whined. Then said they were gonna investigate the FBI if they came to power cuz of it.

But yeah sure they love due process. Gotcha! Now spin, make an excuse that they're totally right cuz the investigation wasn't good enough for them.

Originally posted by Surtur
They got an investigation and whined. Then said they were gonna investigate the FBI if they came to power cuz of it.

But yeah sure they love due process. Gotcha! Now spin, make an excuse that they're totally right cuz the investigation wasn't good enough for them.

We were having a civil convo... But I think I'll just let you go on with your pretend win now. Good job, winner.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know of anyone who is "mad" at Trump for paying Stormy Daniels for sex. Except for maybe Melania.

Wasn't aware he said that, but sadly that could have some truth in the politics of right now.

He's charismatic, but he's a gimmick.

Edit: Not sure why I have that sleeping face above/

We agree on this.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"The Left" called for an investigation into the allegations against of Kavanaugh. That is the definition of due process. It was Republicans who wanted to shield him from the process, almost like they were worried about what might be discovered. Weird.

Even after the FBI Report which cleared Kavanaugh, the Dems were still trying to obstruct and smear. Kicking and screaming every step of the way.

It was a shitshow. A transparent one. Where the Dems looked terrible.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Avenatti is mad, he has continously said that Trump should resign, then she put out a sketch of ther person who "threatned her" and that person looked like her boyfriend.

Avenatii keeps pressing the issue that "Trump had unprotected sex with my client and he should resign."

I can show you the clip of him saying it over and over.

Also all the people that went ballistic in the media are mad about it.

I don't think Avenatti is actually mad. I think he's happy Trump paid Stormy for sex and then paid** to try and cover it up, as it gave him a platform to shine in and make a profit. Which is his purpose, he wants money and fame.

**Which there in lies the actual legal problem for Trump if Cohen used campaign funds, we'll see with that in time.

Honestly, I don't know of anyone who went "ballistic" over Trump fking Stormy. Though if anyone should be ballistic, if should be the "Family Values" Conservatives, but they're as usual turning a blind-eye to Trump's actions.