So let's talk Brexit

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep its a common myth that remainers just voted to remain cuz they were misinformed.

It's not true, but people on the other side of the issue love to pretend it is in order to feel intellectually superior. Quite sad, that.

This seems to be directed at me? Ease up with the hostility, geez.

Maybe click the link, it seems Boris' claim was not factual with the 350k a week claim, as it didn't take into account rebates and other factors, so yes, people were indeed misinformed on that issue it seems.

Just making it clear that no we won't be brushing aside brexit as "people were just misinformed" 🙂

Or don't click the link. No matter to me.

Link doesn't negate what I said.

Originally posted by Surtur
Link doesn't negate what I said.

All hail democracy unless it isn't the outcome some people don't like then it's misinformed voters......... 🙄

3 years after the vote and still working against the "will of the people."

Originally posted by snowdragon
All hail democracy unless it isn't the outcome some people don't like then it's misinformed voters......... 🙄

3 years after the vote and still working against the "will of the people."

Let the UK exit, not really my business.

But if we're being honest adn not trying for eWins, most people in the US seem to be one or two issue voters, they find a thing (or two) that works for them and the rest is just background noise.

UK voters are probably not that much different and if someone's main issue was with how much money the UK sends the EU, they were indeed misinformed when voting if they listened to the Boris Johnson's claim.

And yet in the end no brexit isn't gonna happen cuz of misinformed voters.

Originally posted by Robtard
One of the leading reasons people voted 'Yes" seems to have been this claim:

Which apparently is a lie, but that didn't stop Boris Johnson (aka the smarter Trump) from doubling down on the lie.

And I like Boris.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Neither of which would have worked, because Ireland is still part of the EU. May wanted to have her cake and eat it too, and now Boris is being an insufferable **** about it all.

They made an absolute mess of Northern Ireland to the point that Irish reunification isn't as big of a want as it once was.

We won't have a recession because Trump will bail us out with Greenland's money.

Originally posted by Robtard
This seems to be directed at me? Ease up with the hostility, geez.

Maybe click the link, it seems Boris' claim was not factual with the 350k a week claim, as it didn't take into account rebates and other factors, so yes, people were indeed misinformed on that issue it seems.

They need someone to blame, just let them. Bless their hearts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Let the UK exit, not really my business.

But if we're being honest adn not trying for eWins, most people in the US seem to be one or two issue voters, they find a thing (or two) that works for them and the rest is just background noise.

UK voters are probably not that much different and if someone's main issue was with how much money the UK sends the EU, they were indeed misinformed when voting if they listened to the Boris Johnson's claim.

That could be the case but that isn't the premise they use in their democracy, as a matter of fact, if that is what they fall back to then the existing govt is literally undermining the people they represent as elites.

Originally posted by Blakemore
As opposed to that recession were facing?

Not sure what to do with this non sequitur, aside from noting it.

Originally posted by snowdragon
That could be the case but that isn't the premise they use in their democracy, as a matter of fact, if that is what they fall back to then the existing govt is literally undermining the people they represent as elites.

Maybe not, but it seems you think I'm arguing that the Brexit vote should be undone because of stupid voters who didn't bother to look into their main issue(s) before voting?

I'm not. As a voter, it's your responsibility to research what you're voting on and if the 'UK to EU weekly funds' was your go-to issue, you should have not blindly taken Johnson at his lies. An hour or less online would have told you that.

I'll give you another local example: When Trump claimed he was going to build his 50 foot high thousand+ mile wall and Mexico was going to pay for it, that was an outright lie and the Trumpers who believed the con and voted based on it without doing a bit of research (or just using common sense), it's their own fault.

If you're arguing the vote to leave came about because of misinformation, you're misinformed.

If you wanna say a small part of those voters were misinformed(applies to any election or vote) then okay that is more acceptable. Nuance, embrace it.

I'm being very clear with my points, there's no need for nuance, simply read.

I have no idea how many "yes" voters voted mainly on the 'UK to EU weekly funds' issue. But those specific voters who listened to Boris were misinformed, cos Boris' claim was not factual.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe not, but it seems you think I'm arguing that the Brexit vote should be undone because of stupid voters who didn't bother to look into their main issue(s) before voting?

I'm not. As a voter, it's your responsibility to research what you're voting on and if the 'UK to EU weekly funds' was your go-to issue, you should have not blindly taken Johnson at his lies. An hour or less online would have told you that.

I'll give you another local example: When Trump claimed he was going to build his 50 foot high thousand+ mile wall and Mexico was going to pay for it, that was an outright lie and the Trumpers who believed the con and voted based on it without doing a bit of research (or just using common sense), it's their own fault.

I was simply mocking the democratic system of a simple majority, at least in the USA with our representatives they can choose to not vote the way their constituents vote (even though they aren't supposed to.)

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm being very clear with my points, there's no need for nuance, simply read.

I have no idea how many "yes" voters voted mainly on the 'UK to EU weekly funds' issue. But those specific voters who listened to Boris were misinformed, cos Boris' claim was not factual.

As long as you're not trying to lie and say brexit happened cuz of misinformation...cool 👆

Originally posted by snowdragon
I was simply mocking the democratic system of a simple majority, at least in the USA with our representatives they can choose to not vote the way their constituents vote (even though they aren't supposed to.)

Okay, mistook your meaning is all. My error then.

Originally posted by Surtur
As long as you're not trying to lie and say brexit happened cuz of misinformation...cool 👆

You're clearly just trying to pick a fight at this point, as I'm beyond very clear with my points. I'll leave you to that.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're clearly just trying to pick a fight at this point, as I'm beyond very clear with my points. I'll leave you to that.

Again: as long as you're not saying brexit happened cuz of misinformation...no problem.

No reason for you to get pissy unless you do feel that way, but if you do I'd just rather you state it flat out.