Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OK, scans and issues:Sorry, it was actually Lincoln March. Who is strong enough to twist metal in his hands (Batman Eternal#52):
https://imgur.com/a/EujNxHere he is, stabbed through vital arteries, without his suit, and surviving a fall after being kicked through 'unbreakable' glass:
https://imgur.com/a/X9plB[/b]
Zoom is trying to KO him, and succeeds, but Batman manages to stall him. Remember, this is ZOOM. The guy who blitzes Flashes (Batman #21):
https://imgur.com/a/12QCB
Superman was possessed by Eclipso. Batman dodged HV beams AFTER they were fired:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4YE61fVjlYE/WIqkfxxEMVI/AAAAAAABqdo/J-ejOY55c1g5k27LXSI5XDJCFUbRq1aSACLcB/s1600/33_009.jpgEclipso, btw, makes you stronger:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0X06zg1plqw/WH9z-XT4CKI/AAAAAAABmyk/49miN2UdIEYmSBE_sjIyTzcEba5p9mxewCLcB/s1600/12_05.jpgBonus: Batman was also fighting WW in that issue:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-325Ka0ZuvRY/WIqkdK60aSI/AAAAAAABqdU/Ei64Tzqgq_E59UEZKoWesTnnYKLZbh6nQCLcB/s1600/33_003.jpgHere are some more bonus ones. Superman's son is being mind-controlled by Manchester Black, who is 'pushing Superboy's powers to the limit'. Superboy attempts to speedblitz Batman. Doesn't work:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v3ogGJf-2Io/WUpA75FKTgI/AAAAAAAACnc/7U09Vzf2L8MN6anJQuggTDCmbQ6RU8AFACHMYCw/s1600/RCO007.jpgSo yeah, if we used 'power scaling' for established characters like Batman and, for the purposes of this thread, Wonder Woman, then it ends with Batman being high herald, lol.
Note all my scans are n52/Rebirth. I'm not even getting into pre-52, lol.
Makes HUMANS stronger. When Wonder Woman was possessed, a b lister team dogpile put her down.
Plus you have the can of worms that is Eclipsed Superman vs Captain Marvel, followed by Eclipsed Lar Gand vs Superman. Super ended up looking better, regardless of which side of Eclipsed he was on.
Originally posted by cdtm
Makes HUMANS stronger. When Wonder Woman was possessed, a b lister team dogpile put her down.Plus you have the can of worms that is Eclipsed Superman vs Captain Marvel, followed by Eclipsed Lar Gand vs Superman. Super ended up looking better, regardless of which side of Eclipsed he was on.
That's pre 52. Hence my use of only n52/Rebirth scans.
My point being, it doesn't weaken them at the very least. It makes them bloodlusted. Superman was def bloodlusted there, and Batman still managed to dodge them after they were fired.
No words on how it affects humans differently, and without those words, we can't just assume WW is weaker. Power scaling doesn't work
Well, I don't reallly have a dog in that race. I mean, as a fan, I win either way with Supes.
Just saying, the amp is pretty vague and doesn't seem to do much at higher levels, aside from making the victim bloodlusted. Basically, there's no real mention of a mid tier/herald level being being stronger, either.
Originally posted by XLR87T3My point still stands, Wonder Woman has a objective FTL speed feat, she's faster than light
Wonder Woman has a FTL feat without scaling
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hahaha. At least it wasn't Carver's 'heres WW entering the Speed Force under her own power' myth.Ghostman, does this satisfy you?
He wouldnt dare, I already posted the context of that feat a few pahes ago. Without lassoing JQ to drag her there not happening. And b4 we get the crap argument that the lasso is a speed feat let me remind u "magic lasso" that is "mentally comanded"
Originally posted by XLR87T3You're baiting both here and on other forums, to fish other people's arguments and use them against each other.
My point still stands, Wonder Woman has a objective FTL speed feat, she's faster than light
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/is-wonder-woman-faster-than-light-prove-it-1992912/
You're arguing against this exact same feat you're using for here.
Start thinking for yourself, maybe.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Look, at the end of the day, WW isn't Ares, lol.She is THE biggest female superhero in all of comics. One of the Big Three. Had her own TV show, film etc. Been around since the 40s. Has her own title, and guest stars in many books.
And yet, when ghostman asks a simple question, all you guys have as proof are power scaling feats??? She's fought this character, who has this feat, therefore she gets that feat too??
Come on.
What feats does she have to say she is FTL?
Least I know they're reading my posts. And that comicvine is unable to deal with me. Saves me the hassle of joining
Originally posted by PhilosophíaLol I've been caught.
You're baiting both here and on other forums, to fish other people's arguments and use them against each other.https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/is-wonder-woman-faster-than-light-prove-it-1992912/
You're arguing against this exact same feat you're using for here.Start thinking for yourself, maybe.
The truth is that DarkSaint's arguments are so extraordinary that I had to check both sides of the arguments. It's like arguing that Goku was a low mid tier up until super, because he has only powerscaling feats. No one here except Darksaint would ever admit Slowdinson is faster than Diana due to FTL feats, or Silver Surfer being way more powerful than Superman due to feats without scaling.
Also, I just like to bait, it's addictive
Dirtstain only likes DC.
Plus iirc he's Chinese, and Dragonball is Japanese. You can't be throwing around an example like that with his name attached to it. That's not just brand wars stuff, the Japanese are primal hate for his people. I don't know what color your face is... black or white I imagine, but it'd be like the secret fear of Muslims for you. Outside both possible halves of you might be like "Let them in, you jive turkeys" but inside you're always looking for the nearest thing to hide under in case of a sudden "ALLAHU ACKBAR!"
Secretly Darksaint is shaking with rage over your post.
