Originally posted by carver9
😕 ... are you serious right now? Wonderman should be able to fly to Doomsday who is standing there and lift him off the ground unless he have a way of adapting to that type of attack. Doomsday weigh about 800 to a 1000 pounds. Why couldn't he be lifted?
Glad we agree if a TKer(or someone who can cast storms) with enough force can lift Hulk who is a pretty one dimensional brick
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So the same thing can be said to Hulk.Glad we agree if a TKer(or someone who can cast storms) with enough force can lift Hulk who is a pretty one dimensional brick
He hasn't been one dimensional in like, forever; fts prove this. Hulk fts doesn't apply to Doomsday. So no, it won't work.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Im not exactly sure what level tk Cable was using in the scene. For one I dont even know what he's capable of. At face value, one may think he needed mountain level in the book... But since I dont know what he is cpable tk-wise, It's hard to really guage what he used in the book.
And now u are trying to peg a specific for another character? Cant u see y ure asking an impractical question?
Well face value is precisely what is being argued by Carv.
And no, still not seeing why it is impractical. If it takes X amounts of force to lift Hulk with TK, surely Thor, one of the best if not the best heralds in Marvel should surely be able to replicate that X amount with wind?
So my question is, are we (or you) in agreement with Mr Carv that it takes mountain shifting force to move Hulk? Whether Cable can create mountain level TK or not is moot - Thor is now on the scene, and attempting to do the same, only with wind instead of TK. It still takes X amounts of force, unless Hulk is able to evolve past TK but not wind lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well face value is precisely what is being argued by Carv.And no, still not seeing why it is impractical. If it takes X amounts of force to lift Hulk with TK, surely Thor, one of the best if not the best heralds in Marvel should surely be able to replicate that X amount with wind?
So my question is, are we (or you) in agreement with Mr Carv that it takes mountain shifting force to move Hulk? Whether Cable can create mountain level TK or not is moot - Thor is now on the scene, and attempting to do the same, only with wind instead of TK. It still takes X amounts of force, unless Hulk is able to evolve past TK but not wind lmao.
And to put a bow on what I thought of the scene, bottom line is hulk somehow managed to not be moved by Cable's tk. And i dont think completely throwing that scene away just so Carver cant use it or bring it up in he future is the right thing to do.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Same like Hulk who doesnt show to be immune to being lifted 😛So again, Can Hulk be lifted or can TKers lift Hulk by lifting the ground Hulk is standing on?
The entire team, including Cable who was actively using TK couldn't budge him. Said moving the Hulk is like shifting a mountain. That is enough of a showing for me to accept it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Again, based on the depiction it looked like the team was struggling to physically move him even in the slightest. This included Cable as well. As to what level was needed to move him let alone even budge him, I am not sure. Why because familiarity with Cabes tk capabilities i think is needed and definitely not moot.
As to what Carver thinks of the scene, well u can discuss that with him.
U asking for a minimum amount needed by thor to lift just seems deficient and impractical.And to put a bow on what I thought of the scene, bottom line is hulk somehow managed to bedont not moved by Cable's tk. And i dont think completely throwing that scene away just so Carver cant use it or bring it up in he future is the right thing to do.
Whelp... good luck on me not mentioning it. The mods outright told Dark that as long as a character (during the time, we was discussing Superman) done the ft once, it's usable. I got this sh** saved on my phone, laptop, tablet, hell, I might make a hard copy.
Originally posted by carver9
The entire team, including Cable who was actively using TK couldn't budge him. Said moving the Hulk is like shifting a mountain. That is enough of a showing for me to accept it.
And you also can argue budge =//= lift in Hulk case like Smurph pointed out before
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So if shifting Hulk himself requires a mountain level+ force, Then maybe you should try moving the ground he is standing on and throwing it, Which like I said multiple times. Also this is far from immune to being liftedAnd you also can argue budge =//= lift in Hulk case like Smurph pointed out before
That's smart, moving the ground. What happens if he punch the ground you're moving?
I'm not mentioning lift, my post said BUDGE which is a form of movement. 😕
Originally posted by carver9
That's smart, moving the ground. What happens if he punch the ground you're moving?I'm not mentioning lift, my post said BUDGE which is a form of movement. 😕
Originally posted by carver9😕
Just noticed something. Cable tried to lift Hulk off the ground with his TK but couldn't budge him...🤔🤔🤔
Originally posted by carver9
Whelp... good luck on me not mentioning it. The mods outright told Dark that as long as a character (during the time, we was discussing Superman) done the ft once, it's usable. I got this sh** saved on my phone, laptop, tablet, hell, I might make a hard copy.
Hehe there we go celey.
Remember this next time Odin or Thor is up against Hulk. Superman at least has his speed, but Thor?
HE'S SAVED THIS ON HIS PHONE, LAPTOP AND TABLET. WorldBreaker Carv levels right here lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hehe there we go celey.Remember this next time Odin or Thor is up against Hulk. Superman at least has his speed, but Thor?
HE'S SAVED THIS ON HIS PHONE, LAPTOP AND TABLET. WorldBreaker Carv levels right here lmao.
Thor bfrs Hulk for the easy win. A simple lightning bolt would do the truck. Superman gets his face caved in, though.
Also, Odin outright stomps Hulk. No bfr needed.
Originally posted by carver9
Why are you going back to that? We have moved past that post. I'm talking the reply I made to you on this page.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So characters who can lift 50 tons+ weight all have a chance to lift Hulk? Wow, Thats a lot. Unless you want to apply no limit fallacy here saying Hulk cant be lifted based on a character who can only lift 50 tons+Plus, Like Stilt pointed out, They can always lift the ground Hulk is standing on instead of lifting Hulk himself
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So the same thing can be said to Hulk.Glad we agree if a TKer(or someone who can cast storms) with enough force can lift Hulk who is a pretty one dimensional brick
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So can Hulk be lifted and once being suspended in the air he will basically helpless, Y/N?
So again, Can Hulk be lifted or not?
I also specifically asked is hulk immune to being lifted
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Same like Hulk who doesnt show to be immune to being lifted 😛So again, Can Hulk be lifted or can TKers lift Hulk by lifting the ground Hulk is standing on?
Originally posted by carver9
The entire team, including Cable who was actively using TK couldn't budge him. Said moving the Hulk is like shifting a mountain. That is enough of a showing for me to accept it.