Originally posted by Sin I AM
But in Carvers defense after rereading the comic I can see having that conclusion. I mean Rogue can fly it should have been easy for her to lift him. I would not say hulk is immune to tk though, but I would say he's overpowered the level Cable operated at
He's basically salty because he doesn't like the idea that a TK user can grab Hulk's organs and lift. Or Mags could lift him through his blood etc.
@Darktaint
So r u saying Carver is totally wrong when he said lift? As in no way did Cable try to lift him?
If ure not making any distinction as u say, then y would it matter to u when he said lift? In the end his main point i think was his usual stance on bfr and flightless bricks(Hulk)... Which is they could fight off bfr even being a one dimensional character.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
@Darktaint
So r u saying Carver is totally wrong when he said lift? As in no way did Cable try to lift him?
If ure not making any distinction as u say, then y would it matter to u when he said lift? In the end his main point i think was his usual stance on bfr and flightless bricks(Hulk)... Which is they could fight off bfr even being a one dimensional character.
Because he specifically is salty about Cable/Mags/Thor/Loki etc being able to lift Hulk.
Which is why I am against it, because it's not cast iron proof that he is lifting.
I am NOT saying Cable in no way tried to lift. I am saying ever using it as proof EITHER WAY is wrong. It's .... what's that word.... amphibious. No wait, ambiguous.
You have been here long enough. You know EXACTLY full well that one day, Carvy will argue against TK with this scan. Let's not pretend to be naive and innocent.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because he specifically is salty about Cable/Mags/Thor/Loki etc being able to lift Hulk.Which is why I am against it, because it's not cast iron proof that he is lifting.
I am NOT saying Cable in no way tried to lift. I am saying ever using it as proof EITHER WAY is wrong. It's .... what's that word.... amphibious. No wait, ambiguous.
You have been here long enough. You know EXACTLY full well that one day, Carvy will argue against TK with this scan. Let's not pretend to be naive and innocent.
U not discounting lifting and it cant be used as proof does not mix. As silly as that showing is and however small one may think it adds to his feats, in the end it's still an addition. It only helps his stance.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No shiet.
Why would I try to be naive and innocent when i literally just finished telling u his usual stance on bfr? U gettin a little too salty.U not discounting lifting and it cant be used as proof does not mix.
Doesn't it?
'Something being possible' being equated to 'this definitely happened' is wrong.
That's.... a pretty simple idea, no?
I mean, I'm saying it can't be used as clear-cut proof. Carv can absolutely use it as proof if he wants, it's just crappy proof.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doesn't it?'Something being possible' being equated to 'this definitely happened' is wrong.
That's.... a pretty simple idea, no?
I mean, I'm saying it can't be used as clear-cut proof. Carv can absolutely use it as proof if he wants, it's just crappy proof.
U said "possible". That for me is enuff to add.
His stance that TK - no limits,just TK across the board - doesn't work on Hulk?
Ok.
I note nobody wanted to address Thor using simple wind to lift Hulk. I mean, does Thor's highest showings need to be used to lift Hulk? 50%? 10%?
On a sliding scale, at which point does Thor manage to lift Hulk with his wind 😂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His stance that TK - no limits,just TK across the board - doesn't work on Hulk?Ok.
I note nobody wanted to address Thor using simple wind to lift Hulk. I mean, does Thor's highest showings need to be used to lift Hulk? 50%? 10%?
On a sliding scale, at which point does Thor manage to lift Hulk with his wind 😂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His stance that TK - no limits,just TK across the board - doesn't work on Hulk?Ok.
I note nobody wanted to address Thor using simple wind to lift Hulk. I mean, does Thor's highest showings need to be used to lift Hulk? 50%? 10%?
On a sliding scale, at which point does Thor manage to lift Hulk with his wind 😂
Nope not what i said. It helps his stance. I for one never agreed to no limits. There are all kinds of other factors to consider too. Level of power, level of power being used, clarity of how a power is being applied, etc... This showing is not a complete slam dunk.
Thor bfr ability? Hard to pinpoint, but all i can tell u is he has stuff that is beyond what was depicted in this showing.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nope not what i said. It helps his stance. I for one never agreed to no limits. There are all kinds of other factors to consider too. Level of power, level of power being used, clarity of how a power is being applied, etc... This showing is not a complete slam dunk.
So....not 100% clear cut, and to argue otherwise is wrong. Thanks.
Maybe I need to use sports metaphors and terminology for you to understand.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nope not what i said. It helps his stance. I for one never agreed to no limits. There are all kinds of other factors to consider too. Level of power, level of power being used, clarity of how a power is being applied, etc... This showing is not a complete slam dunk.Thor bfr ability? Hard to pinpoint, but all i can tell u is he has stuff that is beyond what was depicted in this showing.
Of course Thor does, and I agree.
I am asking if it necessitates using his high end feats to support him being able to lift Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Of course Thor does, and I agree.I am asking if it necessitates using his high end feats to support him being able to lift Hulk.