Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by Magnon
It would be extremely weird if the kryptonians could, out of all the species on Earth, only breed with the homo sapiens.

I'd say it's much more likely that their compatibility is more universal, and that they could also breed with gorillas, dogs, horses, and maybe even lizards and amphibians. An interesting avenue for some writer to explore.

I'd tend to agree to an extent. They're probably compatible with a whole bunch of species.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not saying they're incompatible. I'm not even saying there aren't similarities. Superman had a baby with Lois too. Worf and Dax were going to have one.

I'm just saying that these boxes of "oh, x character is x" are largely pointless when the other person isn't their preferred gender/sex of their own species.

Yeah but it's not enough that Lois and Clark had a kid - lions and tigers can have kids.

The test is whether that kid can go on to have kids of their own (hence, Aquaman having kids).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but it's not enough that Lois and Clark had a kid - lions and tigers can have kids.

The test is whether that kid can go on to have kids of their own (hence, Aquaman having kids).

I don't follow.

The test of how different two animals/beings are as a species, is to see how their offspring behave.

So a lion and a tiger can breed, but the liger is infertile - that is the test to say yes, a lion is a different species to a tiger.

Aquaman was the product of a human and an Atlantean - and Arthur was still able to create a baby. Hence, Atlanteans aren't THAT different from humans.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The test of how different two animals/beings are as a species, is to see how their offspring behave.

So a lion and a tiger can breed, but the liger is infertile - that is the test to say yes, a lion is a different species to a tiger.

Aquaman was the product of a human and an Atlantean - and Arthur was still able to create a baby. Hence, Atlanteans aren't THAT different from humans.

Can't say I agree with that, tbh.

Being genetically compatible doesn't mean you're not a different species, even if there are similarities. Now, you can tell me those differences don't matter, and that's fine. I just think they do. And Atlantean physiology has been shown to have a number of differences because of their separate evolution. Not to mention the mutations.

Polar bears and Brown bears can have fertile young despite being different species.

But it also goes to show that they aren't that far apart genetically either.

Same for Atlanteans and Humans.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't consider an Atlantean boinking a Human to be the same as a, say, a Neandarthal mating with a Denisovan, for example.

Atlanteans evolved along a very different path once they went under the water, and now many of them are more different from Humans than even other primates are to us.

Like Neanderthals and Denisovans and those midgets except they're just that small(not disproportionately short limbs) and us all did?

And I thought some of the Atlanteans were changed by magick, not evolution or their science or whatever. Could that be what you mean about some even more different from us?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Polar bears and Brown bears can have fertile young despite being different species.

But it also goes to show that they aren't that far apart genetically either.

Same for Atlanteans and Humans.

I saw a thing that polar bears interbreeding looks to be a survival mechanism given their diet is very specialized but Grizzlies (in the video) are omnivores (and I think most other bears as well).

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Polar bears and Brown bears can have fertile young despite being different species.

But it also goes to show that they aren't that far apart genetically either.

Same for Atlanteans and Humans.

I don't dispute that. Nor am I. You can't have fertility compatibility without similarities. I'm just saying that doesn't mean they're not different either.

All I'm literally saying is that the average Atlantean mating with a Human has more differences than two different variants of early Man. Whether that's a small difference or a big one, I still think it exists.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Like Neanderthals and Denisovans and those midgets except they're just that small(not disproportionately short limbs) and us all did?

And I thought some of the Atlanteans were changed by magick, not evolution or their science or whatever. Could that be what you mean about some even more different from us?

Some were changed by magic, yes, like the people of Tritonis. But some were also changed by evolution. A few more drastically than others.

Even Aquaman's physiology, without counting his superpowers, has significant differences between him and Humans.

I think the point being, whilst they ARE different, the differences - at least by IRL biology (lmao!) - are small enough that Atlanteans and humans can form hybrid species. Like a Chihuahua and a Great Dane, rather than say a cat and a dog.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Some were changed by magic, yes, like the people of Tritonis. But some were also changed by evolution. A few more drastically than others.

Even Aquaman's physiology, without counting his superpowers, has significant differences between him and Humans.

But why is this what makes you say it's a gross difference? IRL there's different risk factors for different races and IIRC gender groups for health. I imagine Neanderthals had greater differences before we encountered them(they were shorter but bigger than us, for one). If anything this would be less gross or weird. Only reproducing with other homo sapiens is equivalent to having kids with your sister to be honest. Yes, I just put that image in your head.

Originally posted by Magnon
It would be extremely weird if the kryptonians could, out of all the species on Earth, only breed with the homo sapiens.

I'd say it's much more likely that their compatibility is more universal, and that they could also breed with gorillas, dogs, horses, and maybe even lizards and amphibians. An interesting avenue for some writer to explore.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think the point being, whilst they ARE different, the differences - at least by IRL biology (lmao!) - are small enough that Atlanteans and humans can form hybrid species. Like a Chihuahua and a Great Dane, rather than say a cat and a dog.

That part I don't disagree with. Just the conclusions people draw from it.

Originally posted by Delta1938
But why is this what makes you say it's a gross difference? IRL there's different risk factors for different races and IIRC gender groups for health. I imagine Neanderthals had greater differences before we encountered them(they were shorter but bigger than us, for one). If anything this would be less gross or weird. Only reproducing with other homo sapiens is equivalent to having kids with your sister to be honest. Yes, I just put that image in your head.

By gross do you mean big, or disgusting? Because the answer would be different in either case lol

And no. I would still argue that the differences between humans and atlanteans is still bigger than the various races of ancient man. Atlanteans have plenty of differences.

Originally posted by Smurph
“Superman breeding with a dog: interesting avenue for a writer to explore”

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Originally posted by Delta1938
But why is this what makes you say it's a gross difference? IRL there's different risk factors for different races and IIRC gender groups for health. I imagine Neanderthals had greater differences before we encountered them(they were shorter but bigger than us, for one). If anything this would be less gross or weird. Only reproducing with other homo sapiens is equivalent to having kids with your sister to be honest. Yes, I just put that image in your head.

Also, eww. Wtf man.

Originally posted by Smurph
“Superman breeding with a dog: interesting avenue for a writer to explore”

Originally posted by Magnon
Half-dog-half-kryptonians should mature much faster than half-human-half-kryptonians. A dedicated superhero should of course do whatever it takes to produce new heroes as efficiently as possible.

Rather weird question, but Krypto was fixed before being let loose on Earth, right?

Or do Earth bitches not do it for him?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Rather weird question, but Krypto was fixed before being let loose on Earth, right?

Or do Earth bitches not do it for him?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't dispute that. Nor am I. You can't have fertility compatibility without similarities. I'm just saying that doesn't mean they're not different either.

All I'm literally saying is that the average Atlantean mating with a Human has more differences than two different variants of early Man. Whether that's a small difference or a big one, I still think it exists.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Rather weird question, but Krypto was fixed before being let loose on Earth, right?

Or do Earth bitches not do it for him?

Originally posted by Philosophía
You have to give percentages and scientific studies here, Pr, for the obviously very knowledgeable DNA scientists on this forum.

Little known fact - Superboy has to jerk him off twice a day so that he doesn't bark the moon into smithereens.