Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by MrMind
but he also has feats in the past to suggest he's not suppose to be on that level, like losing to superman or having trouble with hellbat

You're talking about avatars

Current Darkseid = true Darkseid = all of his past incarnations rolled up in one... So any of his 'lows' prior to attaining this form don't mean anything. Composite-seid is magnitudes above what we've ever seen from him before(with the possible exception of Soulfire DS, but that's neither here nor there.)

Though I suspect that if Superman randomly showed up with his "I must save all existence!!" aura in full-effect, he'd probably throttle current Darkseid... But that's certainly not a low showing; that's just Superman. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Current Darkseid = true Darkseid = all of his past incarnations rolled up in one... So any of his 'lows' prior to attaining this form don't mean anything. Composite-seid is magnitudes above what we've ever seen from him before(with the possible exception of Soulfire DS, but that's neither here nor there.)

Though I suspect that if Superman randomly showed up with his "I must save all existence!!" aura in full-effect, he'd probably throttle current Darkseid... But that's certainly not a low showing; that's just Superman. /shrug

so we just disregard all the past low showings as avatars? that's hell of an assumption there

what about having trouble with ultraman and losing to anti-monitor and black racer in darkseid war, was that avatar too? or getting sing out of existence by superman in final crisis?

Galan loves his fan fiction.

Originally posted by MrMind
so we just disregard all the past low showings as avatars? that's hell of an assumption there

what about having trouble with ultraman and losing to anti-monitor and black racer in darkseid war, was that avatar too? or getting sing out of existence by superman in final crisis?

All avatars.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
All avatars.

proof of darkseid war darkseid is avatar?

Originally posted by MrMind
so we just disregard all the past low showings as avatars? that's hell of an assumption there

what about having trouble with ultraman and losing to anti-monitor and black racer in darkseid war, was that avatar too? or getting sing out of existence by superman in final crisis?

Current Darkseid = ALL previous iterations/versions of Darkseid consolidated into one vessel. Thus any lower-end showings acquired by one of his former incarnations would not applicable to current 'seid. He's currently transacting levels of power that we have never seen from him before.

As seen here.

we will see, empty hand destroyed an entire multiverse in multiversity

darkseid so far hasn't been convincing, if this is the true darkseid, then wtf is the one in darkseid war and final crisis, all avatars? writers need to get their shit together on darkseid

I'm not really buying the avatar theorys that much anymore, dc needs to make it official on avatars and true form because every writer has different interpretations

I thought they did.

Literally says he has ALL his past selves rolled into one. He's more powerful than Pre Crisis DS. It's....as clear as one can get.

I mean, you say he has no feats ...but he just survived shots from a guy who destroyed a Multiverse. How is that not a feat?

wait till it changes again

it was as clear as it gets in final crisis too, what happened to that metaphysical darkseid hologram looking motherfker

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As seen here.

Cant get more detailed than that

too early to tell my girl

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought they did.

They did. Multiple times. Even Muliversity talked about true darkseid and was split ie. weakened

Even prior to this

Darkseid and avatars were a frequent story point to true darkseid

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Anarky-mini2-12.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/ngv3-15-10.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/ngv3-15-11.jpg

https://g1rm.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/multiversity16.png

And of course…

Still true said got raped by black racer

And beating phantom stranger or or highfather shouldn't put him anywhere near empty hand level

Those are skyfathers he beaten

Empty hand was originally portrayed as a multiversal meta super god

Was the darkseid in darkseid war also an avatar?

Originally posted by MrMind
Was the darkseid in darkseid war also an avatar?

As per Multiversity. One aspect of his true self

Nonetheless true seid needs more feats

Also this goes against Jack kirby original intention of who darkseid is

What happened to darkseid being peer to highfather

What is true seid origin?

True seid is basically a new character But that's neither here nor there

Is he not getting a feat in fighting TEH?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is he not getting a feat in fighting TEH?

again, i ask how is that not a low feat on empty hand

wasn't empty hand suppose to be representation of the readers, what happened to that meta undertone of the character? now he just look like any other pathetic big bad villain in any given event