Comic Book Questions & Discussion

"contained and redirected" is what i keep saying. you can literally see all of them containing the energy in the second scan you posted (after blast's crew arrives), and then it was redirected elsewhere. personally i do think there was some kind of gateway in play there (maybe it COULD handle that energy once reinforced by his crew members), but the art is ambiguous. the whole scene is.

and again that was earth busting energy according to blast himself. you cant cherry pick which of his statements count as fact and which dont.

It's not ambiguous. We see the energy blast away from earth and then we see a hole far away. Lol... There's literally no gates opened in this entire scene. None...

https://ibb.co/rsD7TV8
https://ibb.co/mF6gcpt

So show me where you are getting a gate being opened from where they are in space. The only time a gate was opened was when Blast teleported them off earth.

We even see an explosion second panel in the first scan. It honestly can't get any clearer than this.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
If you were referring to this fight

Then it likely between the realm of milliseconds and microseconds( exceeds milliseconds, however not breaks into microseconds)

A typical one-hundredths of a second digital watch is like this

A one-thousandths of a second digital watch is like this

So the notation 00:00'00''00'''01 is likely referring to Hour:Minute'Second''Hundredth second'''Ten thousandth second

But let's keep in mind also, that even if we're measuring Flashy Flash, Platinum Sperm and Monsterized Garou's actions in milliseconds... it's not single actions. It's dozens, if not hundreds, of actions within those milliseconds.

Also, if Blast used a gate, how did he not even know where the two went and admit the recoil from their attack pushed them across space...

https://ibb.co/khm1HBd

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blast had already contained the energy and began opening a gate before his crew arrived; he just couldn't maintain it alone. with their help, they were able to redirect it. i'm not saying there was 100% a gateway in play there, but it does seem possible.

but it's funny how you're spam posting about the possibility of a gateway, yet still just write off blast outright saying that the energy would destroy the EARTH. not the solar system. not multiple solar systems. not a huge sector of the galaxy..... just the EARTH. because THAT is the alleged feat that most are really questioning. you don't have to be an astrophysicist to understand that earth busting energy is orders of magnitude below multi-solar system busting energy, so it just raises some red flags about what really happened. especially when they continued fighting in an even MORE serious manner on IO, and it just resulted in the MOON being destroyed.

the assertion from some of you guys is basically-
round 1- saitama is holding back while on earth, but his serious punch produces half of the energy required to destroy thousands of STARS in an instant.
round 2- saitama is on IO and finally lets loose like he never has before, and his allout serious punch just produces enough energy to blow the MOON apart.

can you at least understand why i'm a little skeptical about the alleged star busting feat right now lol?

but anyway yes the artwork (and scene as a whole) is ambiguous, because we dont have all the information yet. you just refuse to interpret things any other way, because you're all in with saitama being at that sort of level..... and you know what? he might be that powerful when all is said and done; you could definitely end up being correct here. i'm just staying cautiously skeptical until we have more concrete info to work with.

He said the earth will be shattered but he never put a limitation on the power output or the scale of the attack. I'm still waiting on what you think he shouldve said (please tell me the dialog that should've been said by Blast and Garou and Saitama punch) but again, his statement doesn't limit the attack. He's not saying "only the earth will be shattered...

https://ibb.co/28Z7qkT

Question. SUNDIPPED Superman states he can topple an entire mountain with his strength with one finger but he doesn't mention planets, moons, stars, he just say mountains. Does this statement limits him to mountain level strength??

https://ibb.co/z7fPGJj

"He takes no chances, it's a blow that could topple SMALL mountains"

https://m.imgur.com/a/zaXvWL5

Mountain level strength?

This showing is as clear as day. Saitama and Garou is about to punch each other and Blast teleports them to space. The power output from their attack is still enough to threaten the planet so Blast and his buddies REDIRECT the blast away from earth. The blast shoots away from earth causing a huge explosion as shown on panel. Once the dust clears, we see stars and shit gone. Blast (who's supposedly opened a hole, lol) asks where they went due to the recoil of the attack blasting them away from earth. We see them on Jupiter's moon ready to fight. No...portal...was...opened...by...blast. You're just making up shit.

^already addressed that idiotic non point-

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
that's an asspull carver.

usually the destructive potential of an attack is spelled out pretty clearly. if blast said the energy would destroy the earth, then thats all we can assume it was meant to have destroyed. the author could have simply had blast say "it will destroy the entire solar system" or "it will destroy this sector of the galaxy". something along those lines..... but he just said EARTH.

since you're a dbz fan; when vegeta said that his galic gun would destroy earth, what do you think that meant? how about when spc said his kamehameha would destroy the solar system?

carver logic: "vegeta said his attack would only destroy the earth, so he must have been able to destroy a star as well!" -OR- "cell said his attack would only destroy the solar system, so he was clearly a galaxy buster!" the f*ck kind of bullshit is this lol?

blast said EARTH (and only EARTH) would be destroyed-

you dont get to just limitlessly scale up the stated potency of an attack because it fits better with your own headcanon lol. holy shit.

Y'all can talk about whatever feats you want here, but just keep it civil please.

sorry galan. i blame the whiskey. 😮

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
blast had already contained the energy and began opening a gate before his crew arrived; he just couldn't maintain it alone. with their help, they were able to redirect it. i'm not saying there was 100% a gateway in play there, but it does seem possible.

Also, if the energy actually did destroy all those stars, the "recoil" Saitama and Garou experienced should have shattered Io when they hit. But it didn't.

There are just a lot of what ifs to this feat right now. You have to be skeptical.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
^already addressed that idiotic non point-

carver logic: "vegeta said his attack would only destroy the earth, so he must have been able to destroy a star as well!" -OR- "cell said his attack would only destroy the solar system, so he was clearly a galaxy buster!" the f*ck kind of bullshit is this lol?

blast said EARTH (and only EARTH) would be destroyed-

you dont get to just limitlessly scale up the stated potency of an attack because it fits better with your own headcanon lol. holy shit.

Ignored my entire post. Please reread and comment on what was said.

Anime/Manga Questions & Discussion

Good to see I'm not the only one calling Carvy out. Hilarious that his usual tricks and attempts aren't confined to me.

So. On the one hand, people are saying comics and anime are different, they shouldn't be compared. Ok, I get that, and I can get behind that statement - they're two different art forms, with different conventions and styles. Ok.

Then when pressed with a question, people - the same people! - turn around and say 'well, what about [insert comic character .] Lots of what-aboutery.

And again, you guys are arguing because the translation , done by some weeb who does it for no pay, no real credentials apart from their love for OPM, says a certain thing, and omits a certain word. When that's been shown to be unreliable:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fascinating. Carver's proof that Flashy Flash is FTL isn't even consistent.

This is what he used last time:

Now he's using this translation:

Very different wording. One says Flashy Flash himself is FTL, the other says the flashes he shoots are FTL.

What is the point of arguing if the text says 'only Earth would be destroyed: Vs 'Earth would be destroyed ', if you are subject to the whims and skill of some random unpaid fan??

Originally posted by ODG
I admit, I did not dissect this scene in such a manner.

But let's keep in mind also, that even if we're measuring Flashy Flash, Platinum Sperm and Monsterized Garou's actions in milliseconds... it's not single actions. It's dozens, if not hundreds, of actions within those milliseconds.

For example:

Flash compressed billions of years work into seconds, even though it didn't state, this actually is a femtosecond+ level speed

https://ibb.co/jhdNV4m
https://ibb.co/drfQCNp

Another way of thinking about the length of a femtosecond is this: One femtosecond is to one second as one second is to about 32 million years

H1 got you, fam:

Originally posted by h1a8
microsecond feat at best.
13 thousand streaks (just guessing) in 13 thousandths of a second is about 1 streak per microsecond.

Hmmm... question. I just reread Doomsday Clock. Why do you think they didn't bring back the original Walter?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So. On the one hand, people are saying comics and anime are different, they shouldn't be compared. Ok, I get that, and I can get behind that statement - they're two different art forms, with different conventions and styles. Ok.

Then when pressed with a question, people - the same people! - turn around and say 'well, what about [insert [b]comic character .] Lots of what-aboutery.

And again, you guys are arguing because the translation , done by some weeb who does it for no pay, no real credentials apart from their love for OPM, says a certain thing, and omits a certain word. When that's been shown to be unreliable:

What is the point of arguing if the text says 'only Earth would be destroyed: Vs 'Earth would be destroyed ', if you are subject to the whims and skill of some random unpaid fan?? [/B]

That said, the Viz site doesn't even include any of that "FTL" narration in their official release of the intro page:

So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

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