Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by Smurph1,926 pages

😂

im just glad we can still somehow discuss comics instead of movies and mangas on a comic discussion forum

you think current superman stories are bad, wait till you read wonder woman huge yikes

Originally posted by Galan007
This is a fair point. The fanmade scanlations are usually reliable to an extent, but obviously mistranslations can still occur(see the Flashy Flash examples you posted.) That's why I typically wait for the Viz release, as they...being an official manga publisher...are obviously a far more reputable source when it comes to the english translations. I'm not saying Viz is infallible, but still...

That said, the Viz site doesn't even include any of that "FTL" narration in their official release of the intro page:

So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*****ingTableFlip*

YOU CANNOT BE FRICKING SERIOUS ITS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT!!!!!

😂 😂

so it's basically the viz version of the intro page, which says nothing about flashy flash being ftl vs. two different fan made versions of the intro page, which say completely different things about him being ftl? yeah i'll side with the silence of the viz version lol.

arthur such a ladies man

We've been ****ing arguing over fanart, lmao. Amazing.

dc mech is gonna be better than gundam and neon genesis

Originally posted by MrMind
im just glad we can still somehow discuss comics instead of movies and mangas on a comic discussion forum

you think current superman stories are bad, wait till you read wonder woman huge yikes


Current Superman stories( if you were referring to Clark Kent, not his son) are actually pretty good. PKJ's writing is great so far

Originally posted by Galan007
This is a fair point. The fanmade scanlations are usually reliable to an extent, but obviously mistranslations can still occur(see the Flashy Flash examples you posted.) That's why I typically wait for the Viz release, as they...being an official manga publisher...are obviously a far more reputable source when it comes to the english translations. I'm not saying Viz is infallible, but still...

That said, the Viz site doesn't even include any of that "FTL" narration in their official release of the intro page:

So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

Is that translation just missing the Japanese text, or is there a difference between the intro page vs the cover?

There’s a Japanese version of the cover with text that would be missing in the Viz translation

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepunchman/images/2/22/Chapter_95.png/revision/latest?cb=20210423055716

Yeah, this is like comics' cover pages.

The words of a cover usually appeared in the original issue, however, they often get left behind in 単行本( a collection of issues)

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, this is like comics' cover pages.

The words of a cover usually appeared in the original issue, however, they often get left behind in ( a collection of issues)

I’m no manga expert but that seems to underline how superfluous the words are.

Whatever the most accurate translation would say, they’re words on a cover that aren’t even reliably included in the actual issue. It would be one thing if the words confirmed the contents of the book, but they don’t, at least in respect of whether FF is ftl.

Sooo… whatever the translation is, it’s hardly proof, right?

Originally posted by Smurph
Is that translation just missing the Japanese text, or is there a difference between the intro page vs the cover?

There’s a Japanese version of the cover with text that would be missing in the Viz translation

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepunchman/images/2/22/Chapter_95.png/revision/latest?cb=20210423055716

Link isn't working for me... But maybe? I dunno.

I just wanted to point out that the FTL narration wasn't included in the Viz release of that chapter, or in their subsequent release of that specific volume of the series(in TPB format.) Seems like it only pops-up in the fanmade scanlations(which have wildly different translations.)

Either way, cover art/text is certainly isn't proof... Of anything, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Link isn't working for me... But maybe? I dunno.

I just wanted to point out that the FTL narration wasn't included in the Viz release of that chapter, or in their subsequent release of that specific volume of the series(in TPB format.) Seems like it only pops-up in the fanmade scanlations(which have wildly different translations.)

Either way, cover art/text is certainly isn't proof... Of anything, imo.

👆

another link to the same image
https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Flashy_Flash/Manga_Gallery?file=Chapter_95.png

viz leaving that text out is telling. it's not like they have an agenda against flashy flash and are trying to lowball him.

but yeah covers dont mean shit in any medium. remember this cover that showed vulcan ragdolling gladiator-

but then gladiator actually raped vulcan with ease in the same issue-

covers dont matter. feats do.

Yeah, it generally like this.

For example in the manga: Strange and Brigt nature Deity, the original issue you can find words like "万事屋登场" but in the 単行本 version, the words just not included

Original issue

単行本 version

Notes: I'm using the chinese translation because I can't find any site that can read it without cost, the original free japense version disappeared after a while. Sorry for that
But I think both chinese and english translations follow the same pattern should give my words some credit

So in summary,Yeah, it basically like you are using a comic cover to prove your characters can go FTL

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
covers dont matter. feats do.
There were covers where the characters on it weren't even in the comic.

Originally posted by Smurph
I’m no manga expert but that seems to underline how superfluous the words are.

Whatever the most accurate translation would say, they’re words on a cover that aren’t even reliably included in the actual issue. It would be one thing if the words confirmed the contents of the book, but they don’t, at least in respect of whether FF is ftl.

Sooo… whatever the translation is, it’s hardly proof, right?

It's one thing if you have irrefutable/quantifiable proof(via feats) to support the notion that Flashy Flash is FTL.

But if your only 'proof' is a fanmade scanlation of cover art(that isn't even supported by an official manga publisher, mind you), then that's... Quite a reach, to say the least.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's one thing if you have irrefutable/quantifiable proof(via feats) to support the notion that Flashy Flash is FTL.

But if your only 'proof' is a fanmade scanlation of cover art(that isn't even supported by an official manga publisher, mind you), then that's... Quite a reach, to say the least.


Yep, this is basically like trying to argue All Star Superman can literally hold earth in his hands by using this scan

👆

OR, since carver likes to pretend that comics and manga aren't similar at all, it would be like saying that boros could literally hold the world in his hand because thats what this cover shows-

Deadpool, you have yet to refute my post. Stop back riding. Also, Viz is reliable but they are not ALWAYS accurate. There's been times where they have translated things wrong and went back and corrected it. Not saying that's what happened here, but, no source is 100% concrete.

😂 so why should your proof be reliable?