Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by Diesldude
And I thought we were friends. Lmao. Bro just one civil disagreement in a flash vs Superman and we come to this? Jk. :lol.

Carver could have avoided so much grief if he just changed his name to Càrver.

How many multiverses are the in Marvel?

69

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, only Raz can do it:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/f13/t307525.html

He accepts the requests like... once in a decade or so.

And Stoic's username is perfectly normal.

But he types from iOS --- those apostrophes are not supported, same with any other special characters we choose to include in our posts.

I must have gotten super lucky cause he approved a username change for me like 2 years ago lol

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
69

With sin or carver?

flashpoint beyond preview, crazy shit




Meh...too on the nose

Originally posted by MrMind
flashpoint beyond preview, crazy shit




Series has been solid, IMO.

Originally posted by MrMind
flashpoint beyond preview, crazy shit





😂

Everyone's omniversal now.

Originally posted by MrMind
flashpoint beyond preview, crazy shit




It's interesting how they're setting up a new Crisis Event even before the current Dark Crisis run has even concluded.

At the very least they're trying to make sense of what's going on. It's a but weird how Vanishing Point and Limbo are elements of Hypertime rather than the Multiverse, because they've both been presented as spaces. If anything it would make sense if there were some interconnecting lines between the two, but this seems to point more to a retcon.

But yeah, I'll definitely keep up with this story. I'm interested in seeing how this turns out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Everyone's omniversal now.


This isn't wrong. But at the same time it defeats the point because if all you have to do to "destroy the omniverse" is to travel back in time and step on a butterfly then it's not an impressive feat.

It certainly explains why the Crises Threats could influence this overarching structure despite the strongest of them struggling to destroy individual universes.l

Originally posted by Astner
It's interesting how they're setting up a new Crisis Event even before the current Dark Crisis run has even concluded.

At the very least they're trying to make sense of what's going on. It's a but weird how Vanishing Point and Limbo are elements of Hypertime rather than the Multiverse, because they've both been presented as spaces. If anything it would make sense if there were some interconnecting lines between the two, but this seems to point more to a retcon.

But yeah, I'll definitely keep up with this story. I'm interested in seeing how this turns out.

This isn't wrong. But at the same time it defeats the point because if all you have to do to "destroy the omniverse" is to travel back in time and step on a butterfly then it's not an impressive feat.

It certainly explains why the Crises Threats could influence this overarching structure despite the strongest of them struggling to destroy individual universes.l


Except most of the crises happened with regards to space as stated clearly and its not related to time.

GEB almost destroyed the entire omniverse, nothing to do with time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except most of the crises happened with regards to space as stated clearly and its not related to time.

Why would it matter? It doesn't make it less of a fragile structure.

The whole idea of destroying the omniverse being an impressive feat rests upon the premise that it's easier to directly destroy the universe than to indirectly destroy it by destroying the omniverse.

The meta-concept where the heroes are the fulcrum around which all creation turns has always been the Achilles' heel of DC's cosmology, and I'm not sure why people who are allegedly into expressions of quasi-omnipotent powers are so much in favor of it because it doesn't make the characters anymore than what they are, instead it brings down the cosmos to their level.

You should want an orderly, stable and indifferent cosmos. Because those are prerequisites for what's concieved to be a powerful cosmology. The destruction of a single universe should be dust in the wind.

Originally posted by abhilegend
GEB almost destroyed the entire omniverse, nothing to do with time.

But so did the Flash by going back in time and saving his mother.

Originally posted by Astner
Why would it matter? It doesn't make it less of a fragile structure.

Because its not a fragile structure. It's the comparison between brute force and butterfly effect.

The whole idea of destroying the omniverse being an impressive feat rests upon the premise that it's easier to directly destroy the universe than to indirectly destroy it by destroying the omniverse.

The meta-concept where the heroes are the fulcrum around which all creation turns has always been the Achilles' heel of DC's cosmology, and I'm not sure why people who are allegedly into expressions of quasi-omnipotent powers are so much in favor of it because it doesn't make the characters anymore than what they are, instead it brings down the cosmos to their level.

You should want an orderly, stable and indifferent cosmos. Because those are prerequisites for what's concieved to be a powerful cosmology. The destruction of a single universe should be dust in the wind.

Or you're being an idiot who can't differentiate between brute force and butterfly effect.

But so did the Flash by going back in time and saving his mother.

Great, Flash solos marvel.

Originally posted by Astner
Why would it matter? It doesn't make it less of a fragile structure.

The whole idea of destroying the omniverse being an impressive feat rests upon the premise that it's easier to directly destroy the universe than to indirectly destroy it by destroying the omniverse.

The meta-concept where the heroes are the fulcrum around which all creation turns has always been the Achilles' heel of DC's cosmology, and I'm not sure why people who are allegedly into expressions of quasi-omnipotent powers are so much in favor of it because it doesn't make the characters anymore than what they are, instead it brings down the cosmos to their level.

You should want an orderly, stable and indifferent cosmos. Because those are prerequisites for what's concieved to be a powerful cosmology. The destruction of a single universe should be dust in the wind.

But so did the Flash by going back in time and saving his mother.

Good post. It definitely lessens cosmology at DC

All I know is, Flash almost destroyed the omniverse accidentally. Truly a powerhouse.

Batman is also in those scans, because he has to be involved somehow. Do you think Ra's brings his cape to the tailors to they can make a suit in the exact shade of green? Or does he just add the cape option to his shopping basket just before checkout?

Which kinda makes the omniverse look weak in comparison. You would think something on that scale would have antibodies

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because its not a fragile structure. It's the comparison between brute force and butterfly effect.

Or you're being an idiot who can't differentiate between brute force and butterfly effect.


You're assuming a difference based off a dissociation of space and time. You don't have physics on your side here.

And it's funny because every time there's an explanation of these super-universal structures it always ends up being extremely reductive by some implication.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Great, Flash solos marvel.

Why are you so protective of DC?

I'm fully convinced that if I were to make a Batman versus Spider-man thread you'd argue that Batman would win, despite not having any superpowers whatsoever, falling back on the time where Batman took down half the Justice League to then elaborate on how powerful the characters he just took down are.

Batman: Confidential #53

It's disingenious bullshit. A versus debate shouldn't be a matter of favoritism. Instead, it should be a matter of hard analysis.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Good post. It definitely lessens cosmology at DC

Like you actually know wtf you are talking about

Batman would win though, so......./shrug

Originally posted by MrMind
Like you actually know wtf you are talking about

You're adorable.