Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by abhilegend
You stupid idiot, he's talking about if Jon can control this new ability, he can boost his powers for a short time before draining himself or perhaps use his energy in unique ways. Sequencial reading motha****a, do you know it?

Again, how are you so stupid?

Nowhere does he say anything about getting more power from the sun. He's specifically only


This post made me 😂 on the bus ride home.
I swear you need patience of a saint to deal with carver’s stupidity and blatant trolling.

Originally posted by carver9
You're wrong 😂

But let's play it your way. Let's say he was mentioning Jon having control of his new powers (even though he wasn't). Jon admitted during his fight against Wonder Woman that he has FULL control of his new abilities.

https://ibb.co/LhtW3dz

What're you going to say now, abhi?

Here he states MORE energy to fight the JLA...

https://ibb.co/dJp8yL8


Yes, that's why he's stronger than before because he has control of his abilities.

Yes, more energy than he had right then which was absolutely zero. Why's English language so hard for you?

Originally posted by carver9
Abhi next statement- "even though he say he has full control of his power when fighting Wonder Woman doesn't mean he has full control of his power".

What does full control has to do with being amped, you stupid idiot?

Originally posted by carver9
You know what's sad about this? It's not that you're wrong 95% of the time, it's the fact that you call people idiots and dumb when you have no clue on what you're talking about. There's a word for people like this, can't think of what that word is, but it's strange AF. Anyways...

There's so much proof that this blue ability amps him. Where to start?

Here we have Ultraman stomping him and as soon as he goes blue, he gets an increase in power and beats Ultraman to sleep.

https://ibb.co/tzjRnRg
https://ibb.co/CMrxgYz
https://ibb.co/kHsHGdb
https://ibb.co/J2k93Sg

Here, an amp version of Batman and his crew are holding him down, he can't move and he AMPS up to blue and easily dispose of them...

https://ibb.co/JdNhcsV
https://ibb.co/Th3jg0k
https://ibb.co/qkYnr4z

Here he talks about what the blue power does to him. He feels POWER.

https://ibb.co/HdCct5k
https://ibb.co/SN1hgcW

And to finally nip this in the bud, Luther tells him that it increases his POWER immensely and it gives him a short boost in power (power that he later learns how to control). Do I need to tell you what boost mean, abhi. You don't know what MORE mean so I'm guessing we would need to explain a bigger word to you...

https://ibb.co/3fMrmxz

Here is him sundipping before facing the Justice League. He even mentions that he needs to be MORE powerful to face them in this scan. Ya know the word you have trouble with. Remember, Superman went from 0, near death to a quick sun dip becoming more powerful than he's ever been. A sun dip/bathe for short periods of time increase their power exponentially. You should know this though since you're a Superman fan (lmmfao)...

https://ibb.co/jHGyVwn

So now that I'm done educating you on a character you know so much about, here js that amped up, Sun dipped and amped further with blue power Jon fighting Diana. Is he Blue, abhi? Do you see lightning coming from his body?

https://ibb.co/CbZSy3S

She hit him once and broke his jaw. Wonder what wouldve happened if he wasnt quadruple amped.

Originally posted by carver9

So, just repeating yourself like a troll, huh?

Are you saying him going blue doesn't amp him? If this is what you're saying, what's the purpose of it and why does he change to it during times he is in trouble? Also, you're just clueless if you don't think a sun amp does nothing for him and doesn't take him over his normal power levels. A straight up troll tbh.

Also, where are you getting him being at 0 before sun bathing? Scan please.

Pretty sure Jon's blue mode just he uses all of his energy at once

The same way in normal circumstances, you still retain some extent of strength
But once you in a fatal situation, say, like you being chased by a tiger, you will use all you have to burst your abilities(your adrenaline bursts your strength etc)

Edit:
Or imagine this as Solar Flare but it's Jon's version

Yes, it BOOSTS his ability in one go, but by the end of the comic, around the time he fought Wonder Woman, he learned to master that ability. So yes, in the beginning, after using this AMP, it did deplete him of his power but in issue 6, he learned how to control that AMP.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, it BOOSTS his ability in one go, but by the end of the comic, around the time he fought Wonder Woman, he learned to master that ability. So yes, in the beginning, after using this AMP, it did deplete him of his power but in issue 6, he learned how to control that AMP.

So your stance is now he can control that ability, which he can use at any time he chooses

Then it's really not an amp per se, right? Since it's his ability and he can control it

Edit:
Also this stance seems to support what Abhi said, no?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, that's why he's stronger than before because he has control of his abilities.

I don't know if Justice League Dark Apokikips War is good or shite.

It's clearly a rehash of Rock of Ages when Darkseid took over the future. And the title is misleading because it isn't Justice League Dark, no Detective Chimp or Blue Devil or Ragman or Enchantress.

Constantine himself was way too important, he was practically the only mover and shaker in the whole story. Superman was next to useless, even when he fought Daekseid all he was was a distraction.

And then you get the reboot at the end, making the entire story pointless. Just like Rock of Ages and Orion rebooting the universe.

Etrigan's last stand against Cyborg Wonder Woman was almost worth the price of admission though.

Why doesn't Batman use magic? I can understand he has a thing about guns, but it doesn't stop him employing other weapons. He has dedicated much of his life to learning seemingly endless skills to aid him in his battles against crime and evil, scientific, technical, physical, fighting, psychological, criminology, escape techniques, languages and so on. He creates and deploys endless gadgets, tech, and weapons - computers, Batmobiles, planes, motorcycles, bat armor, batarangs and other explosives, tasers, lasers, knockout gas, freezing gas, acid, robots, etc.

He's also well aware of magic, has often fought against it, and has some experience of using it occasionally. He hangs out with heroes who use it, so it's not like he thinks it is inherently evil. He's friends with some like Zatanna, and trained under Zatara (at least in some stories).

So why not regularly use magic? Just as he is not exactly Reed Richards or Tony Stark in the science and engineering worlds, I'm not suggesting he tries to become a Dr. Fate or Sorcerer Supreme level magic user. I mean learning some basic stuff or using some artifacts that could save his life or help take down a villain like his tech does. He has the intellect and dedication to learn crazy skills, and there are enough low level magic users around that make me think it wouldn't be that difficult.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So your stance is now he can control that ability, which he can use at any time he chooses

Then it's really not an amp per se, right? Since it's his ability and he can control it

Edit:
Also this stance seems to support what Abhi said, no?

Yes, now that he has control of his blue power, that puts him above his base levels when activated.

No, abhi brain is turned off. I don't agree with him. His entire argument is that blue does absolutely nothing for his power level when that is a damn lie.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you saying him going blue doesn't amp him? If this is what you're saying, what's the purpose of it and why does he change to it during times he is in trouble? Also, you're just clueless if you don't think a sun amp does nothing for him and doesn't take him over his normal power levels. A straight up troll tbh.

You're just a troll at this point, it's useless to argue with you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He went to the sun because he was completely drained, it's even in the scan you posted. Also being blue isn't an amp, you idiot. Lazarus Rain changed him, it did not make him more powerful.

"Being blue isn't an amp", when in actuality it is as shown in fights and as mentioned in statements from the comic. So no, I don't agree with abhi. He doesn't grasp simple things.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Pretty sure Jon's blue mode just he uses all of his energy at once

The same way in normal circumstances, you still retain some extent of strength
But once you in a fatal situation, say, like you being chased by a tiger, you will use all you have to burst your abilities(your adrenaline bursts your strength etc)

Edit:
Or imagine this as Solar Flare but it's Jon's version

Thought Jon's blue mode was a result of being rained on by the Lazarus clouds? It's consistently given him blue sparkles (and one electrical discharge???) but hasn't really been explored yet.

I agree that, so far, it's "use" has been somewhat limited to expending his energy all at once. But I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's going to end up being more than that.

Originally posted by basilisk
Why doesn't Batman use magic? I can understand he has a thing about guns, but it doesn't stop him employing other weapons. He has dedicated much of his life to learning seemingly endless skills to aid him in his battles against crime and evil, scientific, technical, physical, fighting, psychological, criminology, escape techniques, languages and so on. He creates and deploys endless gadgets, tech, and weapons - computers, Batmobiles, planes, motorcycles, bat armor, batarangs and other explosives, tasers, lasers, knockout gas, freezing gas, acid, robots, etc.

He's also well aware of magic, has often fought against it, and has some experience of using it occasionally. He hangs out with heroes who use it, so it's not like he thinks it is inherently evil. He's friends with some like Zatanna, and trained under Zatara (at least in some stories).

So why not regularly use magic? Just as he is not exactly Reed Richards or Tony Stark in the science and engineering worlds, I'm not suggesting he tries to become a Dr. Fate or Sorcerer Supreme level magic user. I mean learning some basic stuff or using some artifacts that could save his life or help take down a villain like his tech does. He has the intellect and dedication to learn crazy skills, and there are enough low level magic users around that make me think it wouldn't be that difficult.

Strikes me that magic is oftentimes uncontrollable, unreliable, and/or comes at a high moral cost. Batman is arguably adverse to relying on something that defies logic and cannot be rendered reliable by pure discipline.

But he is not above using magical items. Like when he used Hephaestus' "bind of veils" against Wonder Woman during the Endgame arc.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, now that he has control of his blue power, that puts him above his base levels when activated.

No, abhi brain is turned off. I don't agree with him. His entire argument is that blue does absolutely nothing for his power level when that is a damn lie.


Yeah, so like I said, I don't think it's amp per se
For example, Banner boosts his strength whenever he goes Hulk mode. Doesn't mean it's an amp

Originally posted by ODG
Thought Jon's blue mode was a result of being rained on by the Lazarus clouds? It's consistently given him blue sparkles (and one electrical discharge???) but hasn't really been explored yet.

I agree that, so far, it's "use" has been somewhat limited to expending his energy all at once. But I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's going to end up being more than that.


It'd be funny as Hell if DC decided to give Supes the equivalent of a Kaoken just to irritate DBZ fans. Next year... Kryptonian Spirit Bomb

Originally posted by ODG
Strikes me that magic is oftentimes uncontrollable, unreliable, and/or comes at a high moral cost. Batman is arguably adverse to relying on something that defies logic and cannot be rendered reliable by pure discipline.

But he is not above using magical items. Like when he used Hephaestus' "bind of veils" against Wonder Woman during the Endgame arc.

And there it is.

Like I told what's his face in the Thor thread, no such thing as "standard gear" in a Tower of Babel like scenerio. He'd find something that works on Thor, by hook or crook.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, so like I said, I don't think it's amp per se
For example, Banner boosts his strength whenever he goes Hulk mode. Doesn't mean it's an amp

I can agree with this. He's stronger than his normal, non-blue levels, right?