Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by ODG
Dis be the most ironic sh1t post ever on KMC.

Keep sucking off the Phoenixforce whilst ignoring it never had a real feat to its name.

But you don't just ignore it... you keep trying to fabricate it. But I mean... it's not like your theory that extracting Sublime = extracting an entire alternate universe ever gained any traction, amirite?

And my hierarchy is not just talking about a versus setting here. 👆

But let me know when you admit that Mandrakk is sh1t tier on a versus setting also and maybe I'll entertain the point you're trying to make about MoD and Clyde Wyncham.

Your hierarchy is an inconsistent shambles as i highlighted when i ate you up last month. With you amping current Franklin to ridiculous levels based on a potential, non guaranteed, future role, whilst failing to consider the current, cosmically significant roles of others when it comes to allocating them a placing.

And dont get bitchy with the moderator for likewise seeing through your lunacy.

Your hierarchys a wishy washy, airy fairy mess of a system. Its of no use to anyone here. Its your fan fiction. Bin it. 👇

As for the Sublime issue, my interpretation is actually corroborated by the handbooks, which state flat out that Sublime was extracted from reality, and also that the alternate universe was amputated from the multiverse.

Your interpretation to the contrary, is therefore utterly baseless and irrelevant.

Welcome back btw. hi2

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Welcome back btw. hi2

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
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Whirly, last month i was nice as pie to this guy, having not debated with him for over 10yrs. Came in respectfully, with a clean slate and he threw it in my face, holding on to adolescent grudges.

So now he gets it. 😈

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
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Whirly, last month i was nice as pie to this guy, having not debated with him for over 10yrs. Came in respectfully, with a clean slate and he threw it in my face, holding on to adolescent grudges.

So now he gets it. 😈

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, clearly you hurt him at some point. Don't bother with him. Or his side kick. It's clear to anyone the guy holds grudges and looks for things to hold on to. Truth is nobody cares here, we are all shitposting for ourselves and this forum died long ago. It's all habit at this point, nothing we say, none of our arguments mean a thing. We are arguing about fictional characters with impossible powers. It's all ridiculous and pointless. It's how much any of us can be bothered on any day.

Exactly! LOL.

I sit here laughing at the shit i come out with and that people hit me with. Its just entertaining trash talk. A time sink. Nothing serious.

I went at it with Mr Master for 5yrs straight, but id happily go down the pub with him if given the opportunity. 😆

Some people get too emotionally invested. Its just really weird 😕

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Exactly! LOL.

I sit here laughing at the shit i come out with and that people hit me with. Its just entertaining trash talk. A time sink. Nothing serious.

I went at it with Mr Master for 5yrs straight, but id happily go down the pub with him if given the opportunity. 😆

Some people get too emotionally invested. Its just really weird 😕

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your hierarchy is an inconsistent shambles as i highlighted when i ate you up last month. With you amping [B]current Franklin to ridiculous levels based on a potential, non guaranteed, future role, whilst failing to consider the current, cosmically significant roles of others when it comes to allocating them a placing. [/b]

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And dont get bitchy with the moderator for likewise seeing through your lunacy.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your hierarchys a wishy washy, airy fairy mess of a system. Its of no use to anyone here. Its your fan fiction. Bin it. 👇

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for the Sublime issue, my interpretation is actually corroborated by the handbooks, which state flat out that Sublime was extracted from reality, and also that the alternate universe was amputated from the multiverse. fanboy fantasy

Originally posted by ODG
Who has greater multiversal signinfance than Franklin Richards? He literally heralds the Ninth Cosmos. Are you just jealous that he basically superceded the Phoenixforce's role?

Multiversal significance where? 😱

Calm down son 😆

This POTENTIAL future role depicted in a possible future is the one Galactus currently has. Shall we apply your logic consistently and give Galactus a boost to?

I thought so 🙄

Franklin wasnt even needed for said role. It was stated in the same scene that Immortal Man was his stand-in if Franklin was unavailable. But yh, all hail the Multiversal Messiah! 🙄 LOL

Originally posted by ODG
Galan007 can more than handle himself. He doesn't need you talking for him. But we know that's not what you're doing. You're really just trying to tug on teacher's skirt to get away from the discussion. How transparent.

Id seen enough of your bitchiness and and so i stepped up with chest to silence your passive aggression. I wouldve defended any poster at the receiving end of your venom as you will see going forward. ✅

Originally posted by ODG
I didn't declare my hierarchy to be anything. It was an invitation for discussion. Which had been happening until you decided to turn it into your personal pulpit over the Phoenixforce again. Make your own hierarchy list.

My issues with your hierarchy were numerous and touched on a multitude of characters. You will not deflect from addressing the glaring issues in what you presented by diminishing my valid criticism.

The conversation couldve continued without issue, but your fragile ego had you go full on b*tch mode, throw a hissy fit and then disappear for a month.

Originally posted by ODG
Fixed for truthiness. 👆

Doctored for spite ✅

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Multiversal significance where? 😱

ODG's wacky theory 💃

Franklin Richards, multiversal Overlord in a possible future.

How? 😖hifty: Because he might be the next Galactus in cosmos 9

Yes. You heard right. Galactus! 😱

Despite him being completely expendable and substitutable with Immortal Man:

https://imgur.com/jsAdKXG

Lets shove him at the top end of the hierarchy. 😱

But why not then do the same with Galactus who actually has the role you ask? 😕

But why not also boost Immortal Man you might ask? 😕

But why boost Franklin in the 1st place over what has as much relevance to canon as a What If? 😕

🙄

^ Coming from the guy who conflates every single Phoenix from alternate timelines, this sh1t be ironic, yo.

Let's just forget that kid Franklin Richards literally molded the universes that comprised the Seventh Cosmos after Secret Wars.

When you have an actual argument, let me know.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Coming from the guy who conflates every single Phoenix from alternate timelines, this sh1t be ironic, yo.

Let's just forget that kid Franklin Richards literally molded the universes that comprised the Seventh Cosmos after Secret Wars.

When you have an actual argument, let me know.

Deflection at its finest.

Address your wackiness 💃 😆

^ Your stupified silence speaks volumes. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
^ Your stupified silence speaks volumes. 👆

Silence where? 😱 You havent addressed your glaring fallacies.

Youve instead resorted to whatabouttery which speaks volumes you hypocrite clown

^ Haven't addressed? You asked what multiversal significance Franklin Richards has. I answered with him being the herald of the Ninth Cosmos and his child version literally recreating the Eighth Cosmos one universe at a time.

We all understand that you suffer from spiteful intransigency. Nobody expects you to admit you were wrong. But don't pretend you can distort the very simple course of conversation where you get shut up at nearly every turn.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Haven't addressed? You asked what multiversal significance Franklin Richards has. I answered with him being the herald of the Ninth Cosmos and his child version literally recreating the Eighth Cosmos one universe at a time.

We all understand that you suffer from spiteful intransigency. Nobody expects you to admit you were wrong. But don't pretend you can distort the very simple course of conversation where you get shut up at nearly every turn.

Youve selectively handpicked the fallacies and inconsistencies youve decided to respond to 😱

On top of that Franklins potential, non guaranteed role is to be the new Galactus. So why are you amping him up in current continuity based on a scene depicting a potential future? clown

What a mess you are 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youve selectively handpicked the fallacies and inconsistencies youve decided to respond to

On top of that Franklins potential, non guaranteed role is to be the new Galactus. So why are you amping him up in current continuity based on a scene depicting a potential future?

Three times over, Franklin Richards heralds the Ninth Cosmos. Hickman, Waid and Ewing. If you haven't read Hickman's Fantastic Four, Waid's History of the Marvel Universe or Ewing's Immortal Hulk, that's on you, pal.

Where does this alternate reality criticism come from? I didn't conflate all Franklin Richardses and throw him into my hierarchy. I specifically chose adult Franklin Richards. Whether he's an alternate reality version makes no difference. If you think he's a 8230 Franklin Richards, ok. So what? That's the one that's in my hierarchy.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What a mess you are

So when you're done twsting yourself up with your hypocrisy, let us know. 👆

Originally posted by Smurph
Popular? Sure.

Recognizable? mmm

It's pretty hard to beat Superman's iconography.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hmm, I honestly don't know.

In terms of general popularity, yeah, probably Goku.
In terms of sheer recognizability, though, it's probably a wash.

Imo, it's like the Coke vs. Pepsi conundrum. People might like one more than the other, but you can still acknowledge/recognize both brands equally.

^ Well Goku does have his classic kanji with the orange background. Pretty recognizable, but I doubt it's quite *as* recognizable as the "S" shield.

But if you show the worldwide population a pic of this guy:

And this guy:

...I'd be curious to know who is recognized more on average? Feel like it's pretty much an all-around wash, although I'm sure age plays a factor as well. ie. the older crowd(maybe 50 and upwards?) might not even know what "a Goku" is, but they likely do know about Superman, given that he's been a pop-icon since the 30s. Flip side, I feel like most of the 40 and younger crowd would surely know Goku when they see him, along with Superman(even if they know nothing about either character.)

^ Pop icon in America, sure. Like, everybody in America knows Superman. But throughout Europe, is Tintin arguably more recognizable?

I don't know crap about Tintin but... just perusing his wiki, I'm like.. whoa...