Originally posted by ODG
^ Out of curiosity... is Obi-Wan widely considered to be one of the greatest Jedi ever?If Obi-Wan is, would losing to him even be a knock on Vader? Especially given that Obi-Wan was his teacher for a long time???
Please understand, I have no horse in Star Wars debates.
He is, yes.
But Vader himself is supposed to be MUCH stronger at his peak. Even as Anakin before his fall, he regularly doubled in power until he was de-limbing and decapitating Count Dooku, who bushes aside Obi-Wan twice. Even as a.much younger minor, Anakin outperformed Obi-Wan against Dooku.
As for their ROTS final showdown, Anakin clearly and comfortably stood above Obi-Wan. He had him constantly on the defensive, manhandled him with one arm, was up first after a double force push sent them flying in opposite directions.. Obi-Wan only prevailed because Anakin grew arrogant and idiotically tried to leap over his head, leaving himself open to a single slash that took several limbs off.
And ok fair enough, Obi-Wan had experience on him, and he kept his cool. But it was an upset victory, there was no doubt who was stronger.
The TV program meanwhile has Obi-Wan WTF combo to KO Vader. I mean, he just goes SSJ on his butt, he absolutely and completely overwhelmed Vader. No real tricks to speak.of, no real tactics, just brutalized him.