Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It's okay. The main problem I have is there are too many tie-ins, but this problem seems to exist in all modern big events

What power level do you see Insomnia on?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I haven't read Immortal Hulk, but I heard an argument that I just know is BS, but I was wondering if anyone could just give a quick refutation to it:

Spoiler:
Someone claimed that since the Hulk beat The One Below All, who is the alter-ego of The One Above All, that means that the Hulk > TOAA, and he is the most powerful being in all of Marvel.

Originally posted by ODG
I still don't understand how any of this relates to "ratings". Were you just shot-gunning random sh1t in the hopes that it'd stick to a wall?

You presented yourself as the voice of KMC stating something to the effect of I'm the laughing stock of the entire forum and no one takes me seriously. I shutdown that nonsense clarifying that you speak for no one but yourself and asked if you really believed other members gave you ratings when the previous few pages (at that point) were littered with people rubbishing you and your takes.

There is no rocket science behind my use of the word ratings. The word has a universally defined set of definitions for English speakers. What I meant was quite apparent given the context of the conversation.

The struggle you have had with such a simple phrase, is demonstrative of the wider problem you have with textual interpretation. 😬

Originally posted by ODG
Err... no, I posted a hierarchy list and then you tried to conflate the Enigma (the over-arching Marvel multiversal threat) with a simple Dominion. If anything, you sh1tted up the discussion.

Whether you agreed with my points or not, they were well evidenced and it was easy to see how i came to the conclusions i did. Again, whether you agreed with them or not. Your response should've been to agree to disagree, not the hostility that you spewed.

If you are incapable of dealing with criticism or a contrary opinion in an adult and appropriate way, then that speaks for learning and emotional development needs. 🙁

Originally posted by ODG
And your notion remains laughable. And the purpose was transparent given that you wanted to reverse-inflate the Phoenixforce. Having said that, you never even bothered to address that Dominions were threatened by both the Phoenixforce and Galactus (an Abstract who you constantly denigrate in favor of the Phoenixforce). Fancy that.

Here we go with the 2nd guessing of my intentions. You'll never know what my intentions are. So instead of being a hostile b*tch just take things at face value, look at the points and evidence presented objectively and respond in kind. This is as opposed to disingenuously dismissing valid evidence and making ad hominem attacks.

For starters Galactus isnt an Abstract. How can you assert a damn thing with any authority when you have a blatant lack of understanding about well established facets of Marvel cosmology? 😕

I did address the fact that the Dominion were threatened by Galactus and PF and not the Abstracts back on page 1615:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nowhere is it explicitly stated that the Dominion are below the universal Abstracts. Theres not a single sentence in the scan you've presented that explicitly states that. However what is there, you have reasoned into a tenuous narrative.

Here is the sentence:

[B]"Beyond universal Abstracts (under which Dominions are seen as "naturally occurring"😉, the only primal threats that a Dominion fears are the World-Eater, Galactus, and the singular universal manifestation of life, the Phoenix."

Where in this, does it explicitly say the Dominion are below the Abstracts? (They might very well be, but this paragraph certainly doesn't confirm that in any explicit way.) Please isolate the part which from what I can see, you're misinterpreting.

Paraphrasing this paragraph, what is stated is that other than the Abstracts, (who themselves see the Dominion as a natural part of existence and so are unlikely to interfere with them) the only other things the Dominion regard as a threat are Galactus and the Phoenix. Who unlike the Abstracts are very much likely to oppose the Dominion.

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I highlighted how the comic explicitly states that the Abstracts deem the Dominion as natural parts of existence so dont interfere with them. Galactus and Phoenix with their different natures and agendas do see the Dominion as threats and therefore they interfere with the Dominion hence why theyre threats and the Abstracts arent.

Originally posted by ODG
I mean... if you were consistent with your criticisms over Galactus as a universal force, you'd accept that Hickman and Ewing place the Phoenixforce on par with him accordingly.

How convenient you avoid this on-panel characterization.

Empty waffle. Please present some conclusive evidence of such an explicit characterization in Hickman and Ewing's work. Because if this assertion of yours relies solely on the fact that Galactus and Phoenix are named in the same sentence as threats to the Dominion, then that's the weakest of weak sauce. 😬

Originally posted by ODG
Yet, I don't overtly lie and lick Phoenixforce balls across multiple threads to exhaust constructive KMC posters into bowing out of pointless debates in the hope that last word posts deceive random bystanders.

Absolute nonsense. You have some deranged belief that everything i post is tied to some agenda to elevate the Phoenix to the top of the hierarchy and this belief has you deceitfully rejecting explicit evidence and valid points, rejecting the notion of good sportsmanship with you refusing to give an inch and concede on any points that you cant counter, instead opting to attack my character and make me out to be some irrational fanboy. All in an effort to cover up the fact that you have been left stumped. (e.g. Raven vs Phoenix thread) And as demonstrated here, even going as far as trying to butter up and pander to any posters you see I've rubbed the wrong way so they can join in on your misguided campaign. What a piece of work you are 😆

All this over comic books? Really? 🙄 Are you ok in life ODG? This isnt normal or healthy behaviour 😕

Originally posted by ODG
I will take accountability over being a d1ck to the moron who does so. 👆

As ive shown in my previous reply, i took accountability from the start and apologised for any offence id caused in the past and asked you to engage me with respect and have respect for fellow posters by not derailing the thread with ad hominem attacks that i could only ignore for so long. You elected to reject my calls for a private talk through and continued with the bullsh*t. 🙄

Originally posted by Senor Cage
What power level do you see Insomnia on?

Originally posted by Diesldude
Not sure for certain his power levels or who to compare him to. I think he should be able to warp reality like he did dreams. But watch him get punched out or some other bs.

I'm not familiar with the character, but it's not necessarily bs for a reality warper to get taken by surprised and punched out. A lot of them aren't all that creative with their powers (few seem to think 'transform myself to become invincible' before going into a fight, etc.) I guess it's arrogance from having such a strong power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You presented yourself as the voice of KMC stating something to the effect of I'm the laughing stock of the entire forum and no one takes me seriously.

But I can read a room, pal.

I can also read your transparent attempt to rewrite the history of your post. Because you started out accused me of overrating myself. Now it's about rating you. And... all this talk about "ratings" is still completely out of the blue.

I am legitimately confused at this point. But it now strikes me that it wasn't some surreptitious ploy on your part. Seems evident now that you just needed to pivot the conversation away from the wholesale deconstruction of your theories.

So when you've got nowhere else to go in an actual argument, might as well engage in non sequiturs, amirite?

Originally posted by Smurph
Andor is the best of the bunch, by some distance

I was very entertained. Hope there's more of that stuff when I get to watching it.

Originally posted by Smurph
Andor is the best of the bunch, by some distance

For me it’s tied with Mando. Season 1& 2

Originally posted by ODG
Saquon is in a contract year (again). If he matches his top-5 RB performance, then NYG have a chance. Everybody is jerking off to our new TE, but Darren Waller ain’t done sh1t in my fantasy teams when I drafted him, so AFAIK, he’s a waste of cap space.

It’ll come down to our defense. While I may be deluded into thinking you don’t need pro-bowlers to have a top ten defense, our secondary defense is the issue. Wink Martindale has got his hands full without top cornerbacks or safeties.

Daniel Jones ain’t out-scoring other offenses like Kansas City does. And NYG cannot sustain the 4th quarter come-from-behind victories that allowed us to sneak into the playoffs like last year.

We’ll see if our defense steps up. Fingers crossed.

I agreed about the defense, mainly the line, our first rd pick is pretty good and the 6th round cb locked down a job already. I think we also go ourselves an upgrade over Julian Love at safety. But these are rookies and anything can happen .

Barkley will have a big year becuase last couple of years they have been stacking the box but now we have speed at wr but can jones take advantage and get them the ball? I think this coaching staff is the best we have had since TC won his Super Bowl.

They’s guys seem to be prepared and the players believe in them.

I want to say we improved on last year but until we beat those eagles and cowboys we’re gonna have an early exit in the playoffs if we make it.

Waller was a stud TE but he’s been injury prone. If he’s healthy I still wouldn’t pick him before the 5th round. I’m in a 2 flex player league.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I agreed about the defense, mainly the line, our first rd pick is pretty good and the 6th round cb locked down a job already. I think we also go ourselves an upgrade over Julian Love at safety. But these are rookies and anything can happen .

Barkley will have a big year becuase last couple of years they have been stacking the box but now we have speed at wr but can jones take advantage and get them the ball? I think this coaching staff is the best we have had since TC won his Super Bowl.

They’s guys seem to be prepared and the players believe in them.

I want to say we improved on last year but until we beat those eagles and cowboys we’re gonna have an early exit in the playoffs if we make it.

Waller was a stud TE but he’s been injury prone. If he’s healthy I still wouldn’t pick him before the 5th round. I’m in a 2 flex player league.

Maybe I am being a debbie downer, but last year was full of historic aberrations. The amount of 4th quarter come-from-behind victories was ridiculous. It just doesn't really happen in football. And I don't think you can mold a regular season where you constantly come-from-behind into a playoff season.

But I will be very pleasantly surprised if I am proven wrong. Daniel Jones appears to be on an upswing trajectory after some embarrassing lows. Reminds me of Eli, tbh. That's a good thing to me.

But the Cowboys are also poised to have a bounceback season. And the Eagles are still the best NFC East team, by far. We'll need them to suffer bad beats for us to advance.

The TMNT/Street Fighter crossover is different. The Street Fighter characters don't seem like the Udon versions at all, while the TMNT is supposed to be the IDW versions but feel a bit off from that.

Liked Raph and Guile's rivalry, and Mikey chasing after Chun is good stuff.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was only an avatar he dispersed.

Originally posted by Astner
The Hulk is the avatar of the One Below All. That in itself doesn't mean anything, since being an avatar of god doesn't necessarily make anyone more powerful. As for fighting his inner demons made manifest...that isn't something I would take as a serious indicator of power either.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, hulk is a creation of gamma and not an avatar for TOBA. That's the whole point of the comic.

In Immortal Hulk #50 TOAA even refers to the Hulk as his hand of destruction (or something along those lines), I can't post the scene look it up because I'm at work, but feel free to look it up.

Originally posted by Astner
No, the point is Hulk coming to terms with what he is. Moreover, the gamma-light was TOBA or an emanation of him. "Agent" might be a better word to use than "avatar" but the point remains.

In Immortal Hulk #50 TOAA even refers to the Hulk as his hand of destruction (or something along those lines), I can't post the scene look it up because I'm at work, but feel free to look it up.

Originally posted by ODG
I agree best coaching staff since Coughlin. But I mean... we used to have Ben McAdoo, Pat Shurmur and Joe Judge... not exactly a high bar to rise above, lol. .

Originally posted by ODG

Maybe I am being a debbie downer, but last year was full of historic aberrations. The amount of 4th quarter come-from-behind victories was ridiculous. It just doesn't really happen in football. And I don't think you can mold a regular season where you constantly come-from-behind into a playoff season.

But I will be very pleasantly surprised if I am proven wrong. Daniel Jones appears to be on an upswing trajectory after some embarrassing lows. Reminds me of Eli, tbh. That's a good thing to me.

But the Cowboys are also poised to have a bounceback season. And the Eagles are still the best NFC East team, by far. We'll need them to suffer bad beats for us to advance. [/B]

I agree we haven’t had much consistency, aside form last year we were pretty bad since 2016 and because of that I’m not going in with high expectations. We’ll need a lot of luck as well as improvement in play. 👆

^ 👆 👆

Originally posted by cdtm
Here, judge for yourself;

YouTube video

Did vader look [b]sentimental? [/B]

Damn.

Without knowing anything that sh1t was better than the entire prequel trilogy combined. Ewan Mcgregor (particularly) and Hayden Christensen were brilliant.

Originally posted by ODG
GDI, I could not resist watching the clip.

Damn.

Without knowing anything that sh1t was better than the entire prequel trilogy combined. Ewan Mcgregor (particularly) and Hayden Christensen were brilliant.

that line got me. excellent delivery by ewan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, hulk is a creation of gamma and not an avatar for TOBA. That's the whole point of the comic.

He is the avatar of TOBA.