Originally posted by ODG
^ Your opinion is duly noted. On the other hand, you slavishly lick dirty taint. 👆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The......Dark......Taint?
it's concerning odg immediate solution to express his autistic rage is licking dark taint
i can just imagine him licking dirty taint while typing furiously on kmc
abhi, what have you done to this man, turning him into a taintlicker.
Originally posted by ODG👆
Honestly, I think Mister Mxyzptlk is just a troll. I mean that sincerely.Nearly every time he shows up on-panel, he's simply trying to phuck around with Superman for his own amusement. That's his character on-panel and it's very unique. Because Mxy isn't arrogant in his own status like Dr. Doom nor is he defined by some Abstract mission he must fulfill. He's just that powerful and gets to do what he wants. And what he wants is to phuck around with Superman.
I think every time he shows up and displays any sort of vulnerability/weakness/inferiority to another being -- especially another being who can't actually get within spitting distance of Mxy's on-panel feats -- Mxy's probably just phucking with them also.
Why would he do this? Because Mxy would rather feign weakness to force Superman into struggling to save the day. And that entertains Mxy. Mxy has no ego to save. Now does this help in setting a cosmic hierarchy? Probably not. But can we acknowledge this possibility?
Because if you do, then a DC cosmic hierarchy might not be a simple either/or situation where one must scale Mxy below Doctor Manhattan simply because Mxy himself, a literal on-panel, all-powerful troll simply said so.
As Mxy told SBP during Countdown: he is 100% a cosmic troll. He pops-into the 3rd dimension to have fun. It's just a playground for him... The guy can vape all of existence with a gesture, but he pretends like dealing with Superman presents some sort of legitimate challenge -- it's all just a game that he never really takes seriously.
That said, there are very few(if any) characters in comics that can beat Mxy in a feat war -- he's done what he's done/it is what it is. However, I can also respect the notion that the aforementioned scale above him as per the assumed authorial intent. /shrug
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Originally posted by Galan007👆 👆
👆As Mxy told SBP during Countdown: he is 100% a cosmic troll. He pops-into the 3rd dimension to have fun. It's just a playground for him... The guy can vape all of existence with a gesture, but he pretends like dealing with Superman presents some sort of legitimate challenge -- it's all just a game that he never really takes seriously.
That said, there are very few(if any) characters in comics that can beat Mxy in a feat war -- he's done what he's done/it is what it is.
Originally posted by Galan007I respect writer's intent but I'd posit that KMC must not project their own intent onto the comics. More than that, KMC must be ready to easily dismiss writer's intent given Marvel and DC are rolling continuities that are continually updated on a serial basis and even outright retconned because they employ dozens/hundreds of writers.
However, I can also respect the notion that the aforementioned scale above him as per the assumed authorial intent. /shrug
Hell, Joshua Williamson was given Dark Crisis. But what did his original intent as a writer when introducing True Form Multiversal Darkseid amount to in the end? Him together with marquis DC supervillains failing to defeat Superboy because of some arbitrary weakness? How phucking weakened was he? And if he was weakened to such a pitiful level, why bother enslaving/utilizing him in the first place?
Cmon now. The editors crapped on whatever Joshua Williamson intended to do and forced him to change it. Had to.
In the end, lip-service is lip-service. So while an argument could be made that Doctor Manhattan was more powerful than Mxy based on such lip-service? A compelling counter-argument could be made that Mxy would sh1t on Doctor Manhattan and merely offered him lip-service. Because, yknow, that's actually in-character for Mxy.
Huh, so Superman's Pre-Crisis Superboy career also seems is restored
https://ibb.co/XZwPWqZ
https://ibb.co/3F9RcLz
https://ibb.co/VWxK6FZ
Also powerless Superman vs magic user
https://ibb.co/1Gg2T73
https://ibb.co/9b1x494
https://ibb.co/9rnVHhj
So a fragment of Ares' power is enough for illusion-casters to become reality-warping users
https://ibb.co/HDBZNdf
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So a fragment of Ares' power is enough for illusion-casters to become reality-warping users
https://ibb.co/HDBZNdf
what book is that
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What idiocy 👇
Originally posted by ODG
First of all, I categorically refuse to recognize that either Upside Down Man or the Empty Hand actually appeared in Dark Crisis. Never happened. Figment of our collective imagination. Let's move on.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998What pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths story featuring Superboy and Kid Warlock was retconned back into continuity exactly? Issue #?
Huh, so Superman's Pre-Crisis Superboy career also seems is restored
https://ibb.co/XZwPWqZ
https://ibb.co/3F9RcLz
https://ibb.co/VWxK6FZ
Originally posted by ODG
What pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths story featuring Superboy and Kid Warlock was retconned back into continuity exactly? Issue #?
Compared to
Pre-Crisis version, spelled as Superboy, and with a sign features his image
https://ibb.co/tcCwNNF
The Post-Infinite Crisis
Spelled as "Super-Boy", it also doesn't have his image which should be because he works undercover/low-profile at that time
https://ibb.co/qMn4XSD
Edit:
Though you can also make a reasonable argument about even back in Post-Infinite Crisis, Superboy's pre-crisis history was already restored
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I think you're smart enough to acknowledge that you're being obtuse here. You're acting like this flashback to Kid Warlock serves to retroactively reinforce all of PC Superboy's adventures.
I said Superman's pre-crisis Superboy's career is restored,
As you can see in here the sign features Superboy and and the word is spelled as Superboy like the Pre-Crisis version, while the Post-Infinite Crisis version was spelled "Super-Boy"
https://ibb.co/XZwPWqZCompared to
Pre-Crisis version, spelled as Superboy, and with a sign features his image
https://ibb.co/tcCwNNFThe Post-Infinite Crisis
Spelled as "Super-Boy", it also doesn't have his image which should be because he works undercover/low-profile at that time
https://ibb.co/qMn4XSDEdit:
Though you can also make a reasonable argument about even back in Post-Infinite Crisis, Superboy's pre-crisis history was already restored
First, I never suggested Superboy never had adventures. He clearly did have some adventures as was portrayed in post-Crisis on Infinite Earths stories. Which, btw, were different from the PC portrayals. Second, this appears to be the first appearance of Kid Warlock ever. So how exactly is this supposed to reinforce that Superboy sneezed a dead solar system away? Third, you are reading World's Finest that is continuing to re-retcon DC continuity, right?
Like... Mark Waid didn't just retcon Superman and Batman's first meeting during his run but he just re-retconned the first adventure of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman following Greg Rucka's re-retcon back in 2017. It's like a re-re-retcon. And starkly different from PC history.
I'm fine with you picking and choosing. Clearly, some PC adventures are being re-retconned back in. But suggesting that a never-before-seen adventure of Superboy re-retcons every PC Superboy adventure back into continuity? When World's Finest contradicts that? C'mon, now.
Originally posted by ODG
^ I think you're smart enough to acknowledge that you're being obtuse here.You're acting like this flashback to Kid Warlock serves to retroactively reinforce all of PC Superboy's adventures.
Originally posted by ODG
I'm fine with you picking and choosing. Clearly, some PC adventures are being re-retconned back in. But suggesting that a never-before-seen adventure of Superboy re-retcons every PC Superboy adventure back into continuity? When World's Finest contradicts that? C'mon, now.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998So a single page of how a past billboard sign displays Superboy should retroactively restore all of PC Superboy's history when concurrent marquis comics like World's Finest continues to re-re-retcon PC history?
The Kid Warlock doesn't serve the reinforcement, the Superboy(and the related elements of pre-crisis) is the reinforcement.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Accepting Crisis on Infinite Earths, Zero Hour and Infinite Crisis is not a slippery slope. All those retcons happened. Explicitly on-panel.
I mean, if you argument is just DC often retcons or contradicts their stories so we need to assume the entire history also isn't available seems just a bit slippery slope.
What is a slippery slope? Relying on (i) purple prose from a throwaway tagline ad from Death Metal, (ii) an allusion to a PC Superman meme made in an alternate reality future Wonder Woman daughter's adventure, and (iiii) the way a billboard displayed "Superboy" in a never-before-seen (even in PC history) flashback.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998You've got it backwards, son. I didn't push any of the company-wide retcons upon DC. DC itself did. In the wake of Death Metal, you are hoping those retcons were undone. But you're grasping at the thinnest of straws despite what current DC comics are amply showcasing, e.g., World's Finest.
After all, contradication and retcons happen very often in both DC/Marvel, doesn't mean that you can use dismiss all the history while the companieis themselves say otherwise
You have an argument, yes. It's a flimsy one.